What are we talking about Tikka or Sako? I use Talley or DNZ and lately Optilocks on Tikkas. Out of them all the Optilocks are my favorite. There are people here that like the stock rings and I don't have a problem with that. I would just rather not have my scope tube slip or get marred.

I do not use the Sako allen wrench supplied with the rings , the torx wrench is fine. I bought a used pair of optilock rings a long time ago, the previous owner destroyed 80% of the screws and it cost me 4 bucks per screw to replace, Not only was he dishonest he did not know how to use an allen wrench properly. Someone on the fire told me to use a chrome moly allen wrench at the time and I have had zero problems since. No ring marks and no slippage what is not to like?