Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Do you think it's likely that Feds will confiscate Semi autos?

Madison's #46 was constrained and limited to his knowledge of existing weapons,lethal and non-lethal,in possession of the government during that era.

I don't own any AR's or such (yet) but do own semi auto shotguns. How likely is it that the government could take someone's semi's.

How were semis ("assault rifles") handled under the last ban? Could you transfer ownership?

I was hit by the 1988 semi auto ban after Hungerford, hit by the 1997 hangun ban after Dunblane.
All shooters where vilified by the media as perverts and killers of children. We fought and we lost. We did some of the largest peaceful demo�s in London, and brought the city to stand still a number of times, and this wasn�t covered by the media, and the little that was shown, was a very brief clip at the end of the news.
The media isn't supposed to take sides and just report, but they are only interested in sensationalised B/S.
Your NRA is more powerful than our NRA ever was, and you have to support them. You also have to support each other and all aspects of shooting. Some time shooters are their own worst enemy! Stick together, and fight as one.
We had pistol shooters in 88, saying we will be fine , they will just ban semi auto rifles, then in 97 we had shotgunners, saying �Oh, well it will only effect pistol shooters�..I needn�t worry� and they reduced semi/pump to 3 shot, they just start chipping away , first with , semi autos, then the pistols, then on ammo, then they keep doing a bit more. I've seen it in the UK and also in Australia.

This reminds me of a poem written during the 1940′s by Martin Niemoller

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out�
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out�
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out�
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me�and there was no one left to speak for me.

Once they start chippin they won't stop. don't let them start.
Cheer's
Paul.

since they started counting (mid 50's) up till 2008 he count was somwhere in the neighborhood of 350,000,000.
As well there are 350,000,000 single family homes in the CONUS. And apartments and office buildings, storage buildings, wharehouses, ect ect ect.
There is NO WAY a force smaller than the chinese army could conduct a search. Not even if every man, woman and child were to stand in the yard with the doors open and offer ZERO resistance. Its not a realistic idea. Anyone who proposes it obviously needs a lesson in geography, math and history.



And whos going to be doing thier job while they are out going thugh peoples cubbards? Who is going to be watching the banks? Running radar to write tickets so that the state highways dont go broke?
While the cops are searching storage buildings who is going to answer the 911 calls? So while they are taking away peoples guns they are ot going to be enforcing any laws?
Really guys.
Heroin is illegal.
Cocaine is illegal.
The same dolts enforcing those laws are the dolts who would be trying to stop guns. And just like suburban grow houses sprang up the day the DEA started using choppers garage machine shops will spring up.
I assure you, that if an 11 year old arab boy in Peshwar can put an AK47 together in a tent, theres not going to be any shortage of NEW homemade firearms.

I could almost envision so-called "assault weapons" and other heinous "weapons" du jour pushed over to the purview of NFA/Title II weapons. Not quite banned, but transfer and interstate transport would be heavily restricted.

Good grief you guys. The hyperbolic drama here borders on silly'

There will be no gun confiscations nor any EOs. As I said earlier, there may be some attempt to add something clever inside the fiscal cliff bill as a rider but it dies in the House.

It's all feel good political talk based on the heat and trauma of the moment but once folks settle down and grab back their hold on reality, it will likely play out with some vanilla feel good legislation having minimal impact, if not enjoined by the fed courts or the Sup Ct.

To think a gun control EO is at the dawn is just silly.

Steve, glad you posted that clip. I was on those protests at the start of the clip run by The sportsmans Association in 1997.
The apathy among shooters was dreadful. At the time we had a membership of our range of about 300. Out of those only 25 went to the protest and that included wives/girlfriends. Infact people still went to use the range on the day of the protests. So many thought they they won't ban hand guns, but this was just over 10 years after the ban of semi-auto rifles.
The use of handguns in crime rose by 40% in the two years after the weapons were banned in 97'
Please don't any one think it will stop with semi auto rifles.
I remember shotgunners saying they will never ban shotguns, "you have never heared of any one going on a rampage with a side by side...well Derek Bird a taxidriver from Whitehaven went on a rampage in 2010 with a 12gSG and a CZ452 .22lr, killing 12 and wounding 11.
But then again, Britains biggest serial killer was a guy called Harold Shipman, who killed over 300 people and never use a gun. He was a doctor who got a kick out of putting people down with an injection. If someone wants to kill large numbers of people they will, either with a firearm or an IED or any way they want.
Its strange isn't it , a guy goes on a rampage with a gun and and every one is calling for a ban to make the world safer, But when a guy gets on a bus with a bomb and blows it up, no one calls for a ban on Islam, or ban mosques, Its how can we be friends with these people and what can we do for them!

Good grief you guys. The hyperbolic drama here borders on silly'

There will be no gun confiscations nor any EOs. As I said earlier, there may be some attempt to add something clever inside the fiscal cliff bill as a rider but it dies in the House.

It's all feel good political talk based on the heat and trauma of the moment but once folks settle down and grab back their hold on reality, it will likely play out with some vanilla feel good legislation having minimal impact, if not enjoined by the fed courts or the Sup Ct.

To think a gun control EO is at the dawn is just silly.

I'm not so optimistic... I seriously doubt he'd try anything as stupid as straight out confiscation, but he'll try something. And it will almost surely be things that he can just have existing federal agencies do - legally or illegally. Bricktop's comment about the NFA is one thing that has me worried.

Bob, you are THE most optimistic dude I've ever known.. Somehow, you seem to trust this gov't implicitly no matter what happens..

I don't think it would even be possible.

Outright confiscation won't be necessary. If legislation is passed making it a felony to own, the weapons will be turned in under an amnesty program. The majority of owners won't like it, but they'll do it anyway. Think about it - is being incarcerated worth hanging onto a weapon that cannot be used legally?

I personally think that's where it's headed. Since I don't want to be left holding the bag, I'm getting rid of my AR and M1-A ASAP. I never shoot the things anyway. Let someone else deal with it.

The retired police officer is right, trying to shoot it out with LEO's coming to confiscate guns would be a very bad idea and totally unnecessary. There are hundreds of millions of us in the this country and if we united they could not put us all in jail. Hell if we all just refused to go to work or buy anything other than necessities until the nonsense stopped it would collapse the economy and the government.

I also seriously doubt that they will try and collect any existing weapons. They seem to be planning a repeat of what they did in 1994. But if it ever did come to a head, NONVIOLENCE is the only way to win.

Personally I think that they secretly want a gun nut to shoot a cop just to further their agenda which is to portray all of us as maniacs. Non violence and economic retribution would be the way to go.