If I we're to go back to a cup-n-core bullet, it would be the Hornady. Or, if I go to a lower velocity (blasphemy) cartridge,it would be my "go to" bullet My "only" complaint with them would be, at high velocity,close range shots... they fully expand very quickly, losing weight (seem to average approx.35% loss) which hurts penetration some. They held together well, but didn't penetrate as I want. I like exit wounds, and didn't get that reliably. memtb