I have had 5or 6 over the years as has my buddy. All but a couple of my buddy's have been red pads. Neither of us have had any real stinkers with most shooting at least silver dollar sized groups out of the box. I had a 22-250 and a 243 both 1Bs that would shoot three shot groups into your thumb nail at 100 yds. The two I have had that were the most finicky were both 1As in 7x57 . I eventually got then to 1-1/2 " -2"thru load development but that was about it for those.

Last edited by bangeye; 05/29/17.