I've owned or shot about 20 of them, everything from a .218 Bee to a .475 Turnbull. When they have good barrels, they are much less fussy grin It also helps a lot when they have the barrel twist they are supposed to have!

It's generally thought that the early rifles and the black pad rifles are the best, but good ones can be found in any year. Recently I picked up a really fine Liberty 7x57 #1A. The first groups sprayed patterns, and I was worried about it, but then I checked the twist and found it was 1 in 10", not the 8.75" that references stated. The barrel is a little rough, but it still managed to group under 1½" for three shots, with 140gr Accubonds. Some different loads and tweaks should help it a lot, and I may fire lap it, too. I have a coupe of other mid-70's rifles, that are very accurate.

There is no doubt some of the red pad guns were real stinkers, but I think most of those have been rebarreled by this point in time.




Last edited by tex_n_cal; 05/30/17. Reason: add info

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