Sorry, but the only way I'd believe the 80s to be trash is by my own results.
The need for DRT crap is getting really to be a sore subject with me. You either hit CNS or you don't. Thats the ONLY way to be 100 percent of DRT.
That said, I have a box of 80 ttsx but the 100 ttsx have worked so well for us I have not tried the 80s yet. And no, not even with the 257 wtby and the fast 100 ttsx, do we get DRT shots unless we hit CNS. But they generally don't go very far.
I wonder how these folks would have dealt with patched round balls to hunt with.... or archery gear...
100 % sure is a high standard. I have absolutely no problem believing you don't get DRTs with the .257 'bee and the 100 grain TSX without CNS hits or very solid bone contact. No argument there, I'd be surprised if you did. It doesn't get much better with the bigger ones either.
Where we probably differ is that I know for a fact that I can get instant drops by using softer, lead-core frangible bullets at high speeds that don't hit the spine or brain. I've done it literally hundreds of times. Through the shoulder, frontals, and on a good day pure lung shots. It isn't a 100% thing but it is a more often than not thing.
