Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter

I like that 308. Do you mind sharing the specs? I wish mine was 8 pounds sometimes!!!



Thanks BSA.

I practiced lots of field-position shooting for years in the USMC. I still do that when I can a few times a year when I’m on private land. Almost all of the game I have shot has been offhand because that was the only option I had. I usually have a shooting stick with me in recent times, and do practice at the range with those.

The 308 is a DPMS GII Hunter with a 20” barrel. It starts out at 7lb-12oz, and goes up in weight with whatever you add.

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BSA, below probably is more information than you desire about it, but I hope you can skip over anything you find unnecessary.

I got it last year after accumulating a bunch of credit card rewards points (largely for reimbursable overseas travel) and converted those to Cabela’s gift certificates. See https://www.cabelas.com/product/sho...er-centerfire-rifle/2042285.uts?slotId=3 I have done that several times, and it feels almost like getting free guns.

I have settled mostly in on the Nosler-loaded 168-gr LRAB loading. My chrono gave me the remarkably-consistent string for that load out of that that rifle: 2,613 fps, 2,615 fps, 2,616 fps, 2,609 fps, 2,612 fps = 2,613 fps avg. I can get 1/2" to 3/4" groups out of it at 100 yds with that factory ammo. A couple reviewers in the Cabela’s link above say they get about the same. I have several semi-auto rifles, including a Colt 5.56mm HBAR and this free-floated M1A:

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That DPMS shoots better than any semi-auto I ever have shot. I have not had any failures to fire with it, except when I tried some Hornady Lite reduced-recoil .308 ammo that I was going to allow my sons to shoot out of it. Not enough pressure to operate the system.

DPMS makes a lighter 16”-barreled one, but I’m not a big fan of 16” barrels on rifles shooting high-velocity rifle cartridges, as opposed to carbine or handgun rounds.

These reviews explain the fairly-clever way they got the weight down:

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/1/5/downsizing-dpms-gii-ars/ (“This GII Hunter I tested blew me away with its accuracy. I was primarily testing that rifle for our sister publication American Hunter and didn't even plan to include it in this article, but the performance is too impressive to ignore. American Hunter uses three, three-shots groups with three different loads as a test protocol. With the Black Hills 168-gr. load, the first group measured 0.30". That was the best, but the average of three groups was 0.47". The average for all nine groups was 0.80". From an out-of-the-box AR-L shooting factory ammunition, that is very impressive accuracy.”). That guy got the best results with 168gr bullets, which is my experience as well. For example, mine doesn’t shoot the 130gr TTSX bullets very well. I suspect that the author’s groups grew a bit over time from 0.3” to 0.47” because, as suggested above, that tends to happen as barrels get hotter.

https://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun-shots/gun-review-dpms-gii-hunter

https://gundigest.com/reviews/dpms-gii-rifles

This one discusses the same as to the 16” version:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/10/jeremy-s/dpms-gii-compact-hunter-gun-review/