Originally Posted by Robert_White
Originally Posted by IZH27
Originally Posted by Robert_White


I have not the reference handy, but it is in his published works. When asked for scripture to show their doctrine Wesley took his stand on Eph 3, to know the love of Christ that passes knowledge and be filled with all the fullness of God... nothing more nor less than this.

The straw man is known as...
Instantaneous sinless perfection
This I reject


If you recall the comment by Wesley I’d like to read it. I’m not asking you to find it, if you happen to recall.

Do you accept his view of achieving perfection throughout life?
Do you come at this from a Methodist or Wesleyan Holiness perspective?

I believe that God will answer the prayer he inspired, so yes...
I am not Methodist in the modern sense because they are mostly apostate.
I actually lean more to A B Simpson on Holiness distinctives


So a mid 1800’s Holiness Movement perspective.
I’m interested to understand how you measure personal holiness and righteousness as you progress in years. Is there a standard by which you gauge your progress? When you speak of faith do you see faith as an effort on your part which must grow from within you based on your devotion, intensity and power?

Last edited by IZH27; 04/08/19.