Right at 2000fps in my 24" barreled M54 Winchester bolt gun .30-30. 1900 fps-ish in several 20" Savage M1899 H's in both .303 Savage and .30-30. (Same load used universally in every .30-30 and .303 Savage I've owned, but with the expected slight variation in velocity between the various rifles.) Factory 190 Silvertips average 1900 fps in the 20" Savage .303's- my reference point as that load historically has a waonderful reputation as a woods thumper.


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