Well, guys I was able to buy new Norma .338-06 brass from the guy my wife bought the gun from. I loaded up 210g NPT and 225g NPT and TTSX. Now I just have to wait for the temp to get above 0 a ways so I can give the rounds an honest test without shaking to much. I just used book loads for now. They are quite a bit slower than what individuals are getting with their loads.