Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
I have been seeing of late (last 2 years) a bumper sticker that reads "BORN OK THE FIRST TIME"!
I "heard" that this is a refutation of Christianity and the owners of those bumper stickers are atheist's.
Not everyone is "born again" in the sense that most of us think of. If you read any lives of saints you'll find a large number of them were raised in devotion and never had a need to experience conversion.


I think the key phrase here is “...in the sense that most of us think of.”

Everyone must be born again; and every one must be converted.

The issue here is that in our (revivalist, experiential, individualistic) culture the phrase that is the subject of this thread has a connotation not necessarily biblical.

Fact is, and I think this is what you may have been getting at, being born again may not be a loud thing that one can point to, but a quiet and drawn out experience that lasts for many years in a “boring” and predictable way.

Be that as it may, it’s still born again.