Originally Posted by Starman
I've been in these discussions enough times
for regular folks here to know I have..

So does that change that even christians
dispute it?

Whats your point?

It makes no difference whatsoever that Christians dispute different aspects of Doctrine. It makes no difference that pagans argue about everything under the sun. It is simply a red herring that you no doubt regurgitate on queue.

None of that has any bearing on what is true.