Threads like this one(and numerous others here) are a good example of why real, accurate data is hard to come by and why anecdotal evidence is pretty well worthless. In one thread we have people claiming direct knowledge of hospitals with almost exclusively unvaccinated patients and those with almost exclusively vaccinated patients. How likely is it that both are true? Possible, I suppose. Can also find data online to support either position. I don't blame people for questioning either side. This would be less of a problem if people felt ok with making their own choices and letting others do the same, but I guess that's not how most people work.