Lots more great stories shared, which of course is the 24 hour campfire's raison d'etre. If in my first statement reviving the old thread I misrepresented the opinions of previous posters I apologize. I just wanted to summarize that there had been varied results reported when these bullets were widely in use and to see what other remembered experiences there were out there with this bullet in 300 Sav specifically. It's a handloading option I'm considering (30 cal) due to scarcity of components. I discern that 300 Sav/30-40 Krag type velocities are probably the top end of its efficacy envelope. I should also say that I'm an Eastern deer hunter exclusively so what I consider adequate might puzzle those of you who live in the west.