Thanks again for the advice. I'm the only one on the group that has hunted elk. Much of what's been mentioned I've seen first hand. The altitude sickness is one of them. It can ruin a hunt or end much worse. That's one reason I told them we need to have camp set 3 days ahead of the opener. Every one of us has a pack frame in case we need to carry the meat out. I've skinned, deboned and butchered most everything we've killed in the past, elk included and with some extra help that goes pretty good. I'm 60 so out of this group I need more getting ready physically. These other guys are lean and tough but that don't always cut it out in the high country. 2 of them shoot .308s and one a .270. Handloads for all. I've always used my .300 weatherby but wouldn't hesitate to use the .270 either. It is well worth mentioning this isn't deer hunting. I learned that pretty quick. Thanks again for the great advice and well wishes!