Originally Posted by MonkeyWrench
I consider crippling a captive bird from a pen unnecessary to train bird dogs.

"We can disagree on our training methods. However, no need to question another's experience when they don't know the other...."

Great quote...made without calling someone who does it different a sadist... wink.

In addition you mentioned you were "threatened" by others that your Dog would not be a reliable retriever. While I believe is is not necessary to FF, I was thinking what threats were made against you? Seems kind of serious from here.Warnings and promises are one thing...Threats up the situation???? A little exaggeration perhaps????


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