Alaska Skeeter,

Interesting, Don't think I understand every thing you are saying?? I shoot a few Quail and put them in a zip lock bag, 1 per bag in the freezer, when working with pups I will throw 2 or 3 out in the high grass, then drop a pup and send it to go find them, 2 things happen they will find a cold dead bird, and bring it to hand, and they won't bite down on a frozen bird, I keep sending them till a the birds are found and returned. that's as close to a Skank bird my dogs ever see. no F.F. here. I may be doing it all wrong but it works for me and my dogs. Rio7