Originally Posted by TracksWapiti
Originally Posted by bellydeep
Originally Posted by TracksWapiti
Originally Posted by Brad
Originally Posted by bellydeep
Originally Posted by TracksWapiti
Glad CPW determines what cartridge is legal rather than conventional wisdom. Using the best ammo available for this application will hopefully mitigate things "going wrong."


LOL.


CPW knows everything. It’s as good as the word of God. I’m so glad they settled it and we don’t have to discuss further.

So true, CPW allows a 300 BLK, but not a 22-250 or Swift. I'd rather use either of those on elk than the 300 BLK...

That doesn't make any sense to me. How exactly would 22-250 be better for elk at close range than 300BO? Be specific, please.

I've killed elk like most of you or we wouldn't be on this thread. Most of us already know that killing power for larger game animals like elk is a function of penetration and wound channel. Penetration is a function of bullet sectional density and weight retention. Wound channel is a function of caliber and bullet expansion.

Assuming 22-250 is using the heaviest controlled expansion bullet available, it probably would penetrate similarly to the 300BO with Barnes 120gr. But the 300BO would leave a much wider diameter wound channel, making it a far superior choice over the 22-250 for elk.


Hmm. SD for a .224/70 is .199 and for a .308/120 it’s .181.


So the 300 BLK is losing the SD war and really sucking hind tit when it comes to velocity and energy. Sure, it wins in frontal diameter, but velocity is what really churns up their insides and creates tissue damage outside of the actual path of the bullet.

The 300BO has plenty of velocity for "churning" inside its effective range (just like the 45-70). I took my first elk 17 years ago at 500 yards with a 338-06. The 210gr Partition was going approx 2,700 FPS at the muzzle and 1,950 FPS at the elk. I hit her broadside in the heart twice before she tipped over dead in her tracks. Both bullets recovered against the hide on the opposite side with perfect mushrooms.

The 300BO is going 2,100 FPS at the muzzle and is still going 1,887 FPS at 100 yards with a bullet designed for double-diameter expansion out to 300 yards.

I’d tell you about RPMs and all copper bullets, but it would fly right over your pointy head.


If you’re so sure of yourself, why did you come here seeking validation for your decision? I whacked my first bull with a 7 mag. Sure as heck didn’t need to ask around about how it might work, since it’s a solid elk cartridge. My guess is, you’re not as confident in your mind as you act on here. When you didn’t get the approval from everyone, you raised your hackles instead of reconsidering your choice because you took it as an insult.

For the elk’s sake and not your own, good luck.


Originally Posted by shrapnel
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.