I have back trouble and it’s getting worse the older I get. One year I told the wife I was going to have to quit turkey hunting because I couldn’t sit up against a tree anymore without a bunch of pain. So I quit for 2 days until I got a gobbler lounger chair. I put a dog collar around the top to hold it shut and put a good gun sling on it to carry it. It’s a pain in the butt but I couldn’t hunt with out it. So the chair is a need for me!!