My nephew and I have used the absolute hammer(162) out of our 308’s with very good accuracy and velocities (3000+ fps) and we’ve taken a total of 6 whitetails and 1 bull elk…..terminal performance, meh, we both went back to Barnes bullets. Pay utmost attention to the twist rate recommended by hammer and than twist them a bit faster for good measure, according to them it’s imperative for satisfactory terminal performance on game, no matter how good they shoot near or far….