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Campfire Outfitter
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Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Apr 2001
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In North America, well into the 1970s, people were using non-magnum cartridges for just about everything.
WRT moose, most guys used 30-30s or 303s where I lived. I still use a 303 almost every year, but have carried others like the 30-30 for example, and wasn't undergunned.
There were also 243s, 308s, 30-06s, 35 Rems and milsurp 6.5x55mms in our moose camps. A friend of the family only owned one rifle - a Savage 340 chambered in 30-30 - and used it for everything. He never lost an animal to poor performance. That was back in the days when a fellow dropped by the store, bought a box of Remington Core Lokts and went hunting.
Things started changing up here in the late 1970s/early 1980s. More southern hunters appeared carrying different cartridges, and a new crop of magnums was on the horizon. Go into a store in northern Ontario anyway, and you'll find 243 & 308 Win, 30-06, 303, 30-30, and 7mm and 300 Win Mag boxes. Not much else.
The Internets mantra is that 243s are okay for women and kids, but should be abandoned as quickly as possible. "The experts" say that this cartridge just isn't up to the job. My question has always been,
"If the 243 is no good, why are you putting a so-so performer in the hands of a new, inexperienced shooter? By your own admission, aren't you dooming them to fail?"
My two cents. Load up a 100 gr. Partition and have at her.
Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303british.comGet your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
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Ok, .243 on moose
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Skatchewan
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07/10/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on moose
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Huntz
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07/10/11
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ingwe
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07/10/11
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MissouriEd
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07/10/11
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gunner500
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07/10/11
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croldfort
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07/10/11
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Sitka deer
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07/10/11
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gunner500
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07/10/11
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Skatchewan
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07/10/11
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ironbender
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07/11/11
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the_shootist
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07/11/11
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hawkins
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07/11/11
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Klikitarik
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07/11/11
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DaSakoMan
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07/12/11
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wildhobbybobby
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07/12/11
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Sitka deer
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07/12/11
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358wsm
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07/12/11
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fishdog52
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07/12/11
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Mule Deer
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07/12/11
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MissouriEd
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07/12/11
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Sitka deer
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07/12/11
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Mako25
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07/12/11
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gunner500
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07/12/11
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Mako25
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07/12/11
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Klikitarik
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07/12/11
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ruraldoc
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07/12/11
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Huntz
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07/12/11
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Jeff_O
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07/12/11
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the_shootist
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07/12/11
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ironbender
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07/12/11
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bushrat
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07/16/11
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Mako25
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07/12/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on elk
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Klikitarik
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07/12/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on elk
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high_country_
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07/12/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on elk
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smithrjd
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07/12/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on Grizzlies
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Klikitarik
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07/13/11
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smithrjd
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07/13/11
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PreciousLiberty
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07/13/11
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MissouriEd
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07/13/11
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Klikitarik
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07/13/11
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smithrjd
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07/13/11
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Mako25
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07/13/11
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smithrjd
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07/13/11
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MissouriEd
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07/13/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on Grizzlies, Ek, and Moose
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Klikitarik
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07/13/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on Grizzlies, Ek, Moose and Elephants
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Partagas
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07/13/11
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ingwe
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07/13/11
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Mule Deer
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07/13/11
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Mako25
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07/13/11
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smithrjd
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07/13/11
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GrizzlyBear
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07/13/11
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Mule Deer
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07/13/11
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jagd
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07/13/11
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moosemike
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07/14/11
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yukonphil
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07/16/11
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T_Inman
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07/16/11
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yukonphil
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07/16/11
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yukonphil
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07/16/11
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T_Inman
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07/16/11
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T_Inman
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07/16/11
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whelennut
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07/16/11
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moosemike
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07/14/11
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Mule Deer
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07/14/11
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moosemike
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07/14/11
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moosemike
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07/14/11
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Mule Deer
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07/14/11
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Klikitarik
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07/14/11
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Mule Deer
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07/14/11
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Monashee
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07/13/11
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Sitka deer
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07/13/11
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Klikitarik
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07/13/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on Grizzlies, Ek, Moose and Elephants and chipmunks
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Powerguy
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07/13/11
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oneoldsap
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07/13/11
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Sitka deer
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07/13/11
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moosemike
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07/13/11
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Ranch13
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07/13/11
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moosemike
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07/13/11
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Ranch13
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07/13/11
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oneoldsap
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07/16/11
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Ranch13
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07/16/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on Blue Whales
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Mule Deer
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07/16/11
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Ranch13
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07/16/11
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Sitka deer
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07/16/11
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.243 on space aliens and thin skinned meteorites
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JoeMama
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07/16/11
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Mako25
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07/16/11
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deg967
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07/16/11
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Mako25
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07/16/11
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Ranch13
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07/16/11
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Partagas
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07/16/11
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Ranch13
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07/16/11
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whelennut
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07/16/11
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deg967
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07/16/11
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Mule Deer
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07/16/11
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deg967
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07/16/11
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Ranch13
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07/16/11
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deg967
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07/16/11
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Ranch13
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07/16/11
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Mako25
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07/16/11
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bigsqueeze
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07/10/11
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Skatchewan
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07/10/11
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natman
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07/10/11
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luv2safari
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07/10/11
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Jordan Smith
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07/10/11
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croldfort
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07/10/11
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BCSteve
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07/10/11
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Vic_in_Va
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07/10/11
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Skatchewan
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07/10/11
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jpb
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07/10/11
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BCSteve
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07/10/11
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MissouriEd
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07/10/11
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North61
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07/10/11
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65BR
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07/10/11
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denton
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07/10/11
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Flinch
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07/11/11
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DakotaDeer
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07/12/11
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fishdog52
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07/12/11
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358wsm
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07/12/11
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ingwe
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07/12/11
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Seafire
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07/12/11
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ingwe
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07/12/11
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Mule Deer
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07/12/11
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ingwe
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07/12/11
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Mule Deer
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07/12/11
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ingwe
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07/12/11
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Rman
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07/12/11
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Klikitarik
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07/12/11
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wildhobbybobby
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07/12/11
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Steelhead
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07/16/11
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Skatchewan
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07/16/11
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moosemike
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07/16/11
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Jeff_O
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07/16/11
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whelennut
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07/16/11
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bigsqueeze
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07/16/11
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John_Boy
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07/16/11
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Ranch13
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07/16/11
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Ranch13
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07/17/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on moose
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Steve Redgwell
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07/18/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on moose
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moosemike
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07/18/11
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the_shootist
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07/18/11
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Skatchewan
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07/21/11
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Gun_Nerd
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07/16/11
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Killzone
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07/16/11
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the_shootist
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07/17/11
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North61
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07/17/11
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jwall
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07/17/11
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WPAH
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07/12/11
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ihookem
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07/12/11
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Rman
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07/12/11
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Mule Deer
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07/10/11
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Skatchewan
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07/10/11
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Tahnka
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07/10/11
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Mule Deer
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07/10/11
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slg888
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07/10/11
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Steve Redgwell
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07/10/11
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65BR
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07/10/11
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Cariboujack
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07/10/11
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Hubert
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07/10/11
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croldfort
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07/11/11
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North61
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07/10/11
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luv2safari
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07/11/11
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Mule Deer
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07/11/11
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luv2safari
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07/11/11
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JD338
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07/11/11
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Partagas
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07/11/11
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Tahnka
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07/11/11
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johnw
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07/10/11
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smithrjd
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07/10/11
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tzone
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07/12/11
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MissouriEd
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07/12/11
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hatari
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07/14/11
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the_shootist
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07/14/11
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Skatchewan
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07/15/11
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ironbender
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07/15/11
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the_shootist
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07/15/11
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ringworm
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07/14/11
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moosemike
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07/15/11
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the_shootist
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07/15/11
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navlav8r
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07/16/11
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bigsqueeze
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07/10/11
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700xcr
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07/10/11
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Mark R Dobrenski
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07/10/11
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1flier
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07/11/11
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358wsm
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07/11/11
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Klikitarik
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07/11/11
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BC30cal
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07/12/11
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Ranch13
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07/13/11
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MissouriEd
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07/13/11
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chicoredneck
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07/13/11
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the_shootist
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07/13/11
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Re: Ok, .243 - gnat's butt, through mastadon
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Mako25
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07/13/11
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Re: Ok, .243 - gnat's butt, through mastadon
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Jeff_O
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07/13/11
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Re: Ok, .243 - gnat's butt, through mastadon
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Mako25
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07/14/11
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jagd
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07/14/11
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MissouriEd
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07/14/11
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Huntz
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07/14/11
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MissouriEd
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07/14/11
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