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Any gun you have in your hands is better than any gun in the safe.
Likewise, the gun you have in your safe is better than the one in the store. The one in the store is better than the one on the magazine page.
If you only have one gun, and think of yourself as a *hunter* rather than a killer, a shooter, a butcher or a dude...you can humanely harvest many animals. It is about passing up the marginal shot. The ethical hunter will pass up more shots with a .243 than he/she would with a 30-06 when hunting 'stretch' targets.
Be careful about drinking the velocity koolaid. For a given bullet, more velocity almost always means less penetration. That is counter-intuitive. Vanilla cup-n-core bullets are usually pretty happy with an impact velocity of 2400fps. Ethical hunting with vanilla bullets means you might have to pass up shots that are too close if you are launching the pill at 3000fps.
Generally, free advice is worth between 1 and 5 times what you paid for it. This advise was freely given. You are absolutely right. Thing is Elmer Keith and Jack OConnor were both right. Big and slow kills very effectively and you can eat right up to the hole. Light and fast kills like a lightning bolt at longer ranges with easily placed shots. Been there done that with both sides of the arquement, and own and use rifles that proove both arquements. Just not sure how some keyboard commando can prounounce someone unfit to hunt, because that person in question isn't using the king's choice of cartridge?
the most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to. www.historicshooting.com
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Ok, .243 on moose
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Skatchewan
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07/10/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on moose
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Huntz
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07/10/11
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ingwe
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07/10/11
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MissouriEd
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07/10/11
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gunner500
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07/10/11
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croldfort
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07/10/11
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Sitka deer
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07/10/11
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gunner500
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07/10/11
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Skatchewan
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07/10/11
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ironbender
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07/11/11
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the_shootist
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07/11/11
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hawkins
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07/11/11
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Klikitarik
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07/11/11
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DaSakoMan
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07/12/11
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wildhobbybobby
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07/12/11
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Sitka deer
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07/12/11
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358wsm
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07/12/11
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fishdog52
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07/12/11
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Mule Deer
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07/12/11
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MissouriEd
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07/12/11
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Sitka deer
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07/12/11
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Mako25
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07/12/11
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gunner500
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07/12/11
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Mako25
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07/12/11
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Klikitarik
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07/12/11
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ruraldoc
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07/12/11
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Huntz
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07/12/11
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Jeff_O
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07/12/11
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the_shootist
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07/12/11
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ironbender
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07/12/11
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bushrat
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07/16/11
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Mako25
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07/12/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on elk
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Klikitarik
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07/12/11
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high_country_
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07/12/11
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smithrjd
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07/12/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on Grizzlies
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Klikitarik
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07/13/11
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smithrjd
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07/13/11
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PreciousLiberty
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07/13/11
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MissouriEd
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07/13/11
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Klikitarik
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07/13/11
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smithrjd
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Mako25
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07/13/11
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smithrjd
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07/13/11
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MissouriEd
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07/13/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on Grizzlies, Ek, and Moose
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Klikitarik
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07/13/11
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Partagas
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07/13/11
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ingwe
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07/13/11
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Mule Deer
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07/13/11
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Mako25
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07/13/11
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smithrjd
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GrizzlyBear
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07/13/11
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Mule Deer
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07/13/11
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jagd
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07/13/11
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moosemike
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07/14/11
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yukonphil
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07/16/11
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yukonphil
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yukonphil
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T_Inman
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07/16/11
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T_Inman
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07/16/11
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whelennut
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moosemike
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Mule Deer
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07/14/11
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moosemike
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07/14/11
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moosemike
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07/14/11
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Mule Deer
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07/14/11
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Klikitarik
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07/14/11
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Mule Deer
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07/14/11
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Monashee
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07/13/11
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Sitka deer
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07/13/11
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Klikitarik
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07/13/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on Grizzlies, Ek, Moose and Elephants and chipmunks
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Powerguy
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07/13/11
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oneoldsap
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07/13/11
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Sitka deer
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07/13/11
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moosemike
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07/13/11
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Ranch13
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07/13/11
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moosemike
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07/13/11
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Ranch13
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07/13/11
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oneoldsap
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07/16/11
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Ranch13
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07/16/11
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Re: Ok, .243 on Blue Whales
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Mule Deer
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07/16/11
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Ranch13
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07/16/11
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Sitka deer
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07/16/11
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.243 on space aliens and thin skinned meteorites
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JoeMama
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07/16/11
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Mako25
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07/16/11
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deg967
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Mako25
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Ranch13
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Partagas
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Ranch13
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07/16/11
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whelennut
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07/16/11
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deg967
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Mule Deer
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deg967
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Ranch13
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07/16/11
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deg967
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07/16/11
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Ranch13
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07/16/11
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Mako25
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bigsqueeze
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07/10/11
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Skatchewan
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07/10/11
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natman
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07/10/11
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luv2safari
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Jordan Smith
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croldfort
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BCSteve
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Vic_in_Va
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Skatchewan
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jpb
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BCSteve
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MissouriEd
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07/10/11
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North61
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65BR
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07/10/11
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denton
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07/10/11
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Flinch
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07/11/11
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DakotaDeer
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07/12/11
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fishdog52
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07/12/11
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358wsm
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07/12/11
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ingwe
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07/12/11
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Seafire
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07/12/11
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ingwe
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07/12/11
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Mule Deer
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07/12/11
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ingwe
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07/12/11
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Mule Deer
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07/12/11
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ingwe
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07/12/11
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Rman
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07/12/11
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Klikitarik
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07/12/11
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wildhobbybobby
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07/12/11
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Steelhead
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07/16/11
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Skatchewan
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07/16/11
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moosemike
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07/16/11
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Jeff_O
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07/16/11
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whelennut
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07/16/11
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bigsqueeze
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07/16/11
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John_Boy
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07/16/11
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Ranch13
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07/16/11
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Ranch13
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07/17/11
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Steve Redgwell
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07/18/11
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moosemike
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07/18/11
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the_shootist
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07/18/11
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Skatchewan
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07/21/11
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Gun_Nerd
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07/16/11
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Killzone
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07/16/11
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the_shootist
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07/17/11
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North61
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07/17/11
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jwall
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07/17/11
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WPAH
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07/12/11
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ihookem
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07/12/11
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Rman
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07/12/11
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Mule Deer
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07/10/11
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Skatchewan
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07/10/11
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Tahnka
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07/10/11
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Mule Deer
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07/10/11
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slg888
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07/10/11
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Steve Redgwell
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07/10/11
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65BR
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07/10/11
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Cariboujack
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07/10/11
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Hubert
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07/10/11
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croldfort
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07/11/11
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North61
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07/10/11
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luv2safari
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07/11/11
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Mule Deer
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07/11/11
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luv2safari
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07/11/11
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JD338
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07/11/11
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Partagas
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07/11/11
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Tahnka
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07/11/11
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johnw
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07/10/11
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smithrjd
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07/10/11
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tzone
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07/12/11
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MissouriEd
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07/12/11
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hatari
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07/14/11
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the_shootist
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07/14/11
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Skatchewan
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07/15/11
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ironbender
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07/15/11
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the_shootist
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07/15/11
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ringworm
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07/14/11
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moosemike
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07/15/11
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the_shootist
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07/15/11
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navlav8r
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07/16/11
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bigsqueeze
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07/10/11
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700xcr
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07/10/11
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Mark R Dobrenski
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07/10/11
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1flier
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07/11/11
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358wsm
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07/11/11
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Klikitarik
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07/11/11
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BC30cal
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07/12/11
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Ranch13
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07/13/11
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MissouriEd
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07/13/11
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chicoredneck
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07/13/11
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the_shootist
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07/13/11
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Re: Ok, .243 - gnat's butt, through mastadon
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Mako25
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07/13/11
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Re: Ok, .243 - gnat's butt, through mastadon
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Jeff_O
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07/13/11
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Mako25
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07/14/11
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jagd
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07/14/11
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MissouriEd
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07/14/11
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Huntz
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07/14/11
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MissouriEd
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07/14/11
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