I find the writers unwilling to badmout anything boring.

I also think Ross has a very valid point that had the 458 win mag been made on the full length H&H case, there never would have been the problems the win mag had, because the case would have been big enough. That doesn't mean the 458 win mag isn't fully capable despite it's limitations, just that it should have been made without those limitations.

I have a great deal of respect for the late Finn Aagard and for Phil Schoemaker, and their very well written articles on the the 458 win mag.

I just don't see why folks can't acknowledge the 458 win mags shortcomings, and the fact that it should have been made on the full length case from the git go, as the M-70 was certainly a large enough action to handle it. That is what I see as the crux of Ross' argument, and which I fully agree with.