Proper bullet placement with any of the above cartridges/bullets equals a dead bear and dead is dead. I shot a brownie with a 338 winny first shot broke its neck where it meets the shoulders with a 250 gr. silvertip. The bear collapsed forward into the sand. The same results would happen with a lot of cartridge/bullet combos. Proper bullet placement doesn't create much controversy.pak


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