I have shot over 20 elk with my 270 and I use 130 grain factory loads that are the cheapest. The longest shot I ever made was on a raghead 3 feet over the back on Decker Flats in 1985 the day before Thankgiving. Three shots 3 bullets into the ribs. Had to put him down before he went back into Yellowstone Park. I would never think that the 270 is not an elk gun. And if you do think it's not an elk gun then you have not hunted elk much.