I will take 50-75 yard shot any day if I can get it. I went on this little rant because of the cheap shots guys are taking at the guys who can take them at long range. I seen people pass up 450 yard shots because they thought they were to far and I respect them for that, But don't get a long face if you don't see another elk for the rest of the hunt. All I know is were I hunt closing the gap sometimes isn't a option, so I train, practice, and use the right equipment so if I have to take him at 500 I can do it