Originally Posted by Swampman1
Originally Posted by efw
A proper understanding of one's role in the Church requires that we recognize our own sinfulness and need for grace... and our need to extend that grace to our brothers and sisters in the faith.


I understand all that better than most and see no need for a church. Spent 50 years in churches...gave them about a quarter of a million dollars....and got nothing in return. My advise is run for your life....and soul's sake.

Return? You don't give to God and expect a return. There's no profit/loss statement. You give as a sacrifice. He will return it if you give with your heart, but if your heart is wrong, He won't.

“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell

It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.