Originally Posted by jwall
B T W - I have not owned nor hunted a 30-30 since 1975.

Don't miss it.
Really ? I've killed 64 deer with mine since then and would never part with any of them {I have 3}. I've used a couple metric schittons of other rifles and cartridges to kill deer with over the past 4 decades and have never been convinced any were better or more effective, all things considered, for most of the hunting I do. I still have several perfectly good scoped bolt actions in the safe {.223 , .243, .308 and .30-06} but mostly they collect dust while the .30-30's go hunting.