Originally Posted by Tuco
Originally Posted by kellory
The Right to Bare Arms predates the Bill of Rights. It is a guarantee that government can not take that Right away, and that the Right EXISTS as a stated fact.


I hate to rain on your parade but the foregoing statement is hopelessly naive. Personal convictions, opinions, and wishful thinking aside, the government and courts ultimately define what "rights" exist under the Constitution, depending on which way the political winds happen to be blowing at any particular moment. The government and courts can (and routinely do) decide whether a purportedly "immutable" Constitutional right exists and, if so, to what extent. Consequently, neither the 2nd Amendment, nor any other provision of the Constitution, is secure from abrogation by the government.

My unhappy observation is based on practicing law for thirty years.

As a practitioner of the law, perhaps you would look at the statement as given, was in response to another's post? Not a stand alone declaration of fact? In that, the Right to defense is older than the paper it's written upon.

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