Originally Posted by TheKid
IMO no 357 says Business like a 3 1/2” N frame. But the Ns really aren’t great due to OAL constraints with their short cylinders.

I prefer Magna stocks due to having skinny hands and that discounts the Ks for me if lots of shooting is in order with magnum loads.

The L frames are a great compromise and I think they’re pretty close to the Goldilocks of 357s. Good cylinder length, lugged barrels add enough weight to tame recoil, and the grip frame is a good size for my hands. I’ve been thinking of picking up a 4” 686 of late though it would be hard to abandon my heavy loaded 38s as field guns.


Never been a Ruger DA guy. Aside from the Speed, Service, and Security series it’s always seemed to me that they were overbuilt for little reason in some areas and often crudely finished. The lack of parts and factory service for the Security lockwork guns is a turnoff as well. Lack of Magna style stocks and no other options is a dealbreaker for the GP and SP for me too. Now talking SA the 357 Blackhawk is an excellent package of affordability and durability, I don’t see ever selling the 4 5/8 I have.

Maybe I’m a snob or maybe I’m jaded from working as a gunsmith for a while but I’ll pass hard and completely on anything Taurus or Charter. Ditto Rossi, Llama, and any other budget brand I’ve ever encountered.


Bingo, pretty much feel the same way. Love the 2.5 &4" M19's for shooting don't bother with 125 gr hp hot loads, the Keith style 168 gr swc (358429) is the best in the K & L frames. Just picked up a near new M13-3 3" rb blued for a song and it is easily the best carry revolver I've ever had and I really like my 2.5" 19. I like the N's also but the damn cylinders are short for using 357 brass and the above bullet unless you seat them to crimp above the front driving band. Can't really imagine what those 168's won't deal with in good loads. MB


" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "