He is a novice not an idiot. His main hunting partner a recently retired marine sniper has done all of the basic marksmanship training with rimfires & a heavy target 6.5 Creedmoor. Hard to give every relevant detail in a post. Some just assume I must be a macho idiot (partly true)

Neither has done any elk hunting & not much deer hunting. That was the purpose of asking an old fart like me for a recommendation- and the reason I’m asking you all.