[quote=Quak]It’s cheap and kicks like hell. Sounds like a great way to get someone into the sport

So you bought your first rifle at what age? You started hunting as an adult? You were a silver spoon kid Daddy bought you a new custom rifle? The 222 Remington was the newbie kids & women caliber in my Dad’s family it killed mule deer inside 100 yards fine but it wasn’t the grown up caliber.

This isn’t someone who hasn’t shot both rifles & shotguns for a while- he just wants to buy his own. Are you always this judgements?