Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by lvmiker
What is abundantly clear is that few people in this country have ever had to go hands on w/ a large strong person determined not to submit. Most just call the cops.


mike r



Hey Mike,

an honest question.

Where you worked (civilian) would you have been allowed, in recent years, to restrain the suspects legs once handcuffed and still resisting or making actions one could assumed meant he was attempting to escape.

Zip tie restraints, rope, shackles if available, duct tape, whatever you could use without causing injury to the suspect.

Once a suspect is on the ground, held by a couple or three officer, could a 4th officer go get something to restrain the suspect's legs and therefor pretty much put a stop to any attempt to flee custody?



No offense, but this is a stupid question and I don't understand why it keeps being asked.

Restraints are not needed when you have the manpower to hold a person down. In this case it is pretty clear that the ambulance is on its way from the time that original video begins. The fourth cop is doing what he's supposed to do and that's keeping the dumb fugks at bay while the others hold down Gentle George.

Even if the restraints were available they don't resolve the issue that they were most likely having with their suspect. I'm sure they had a rough ETA and knew there would be a gurney and straps available if his lack of compliance continued.





Travis, If a person could be restrained without the officers having to be involved, in other words 'hog tied", then why not use that method until the bambalance arrives?

If manpower restraint is resolving "the issue that they were most likely having with their suspect", then why wouldn't a physical restraint accomplish the same, then 4 cops would be available to keep the dumb fugks at bay.

And no question is "Stoopid". wink

It keeps getting asked because Inquiring Minds Want to Know.

The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)

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