Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter
Originally Posted by Swamplord
the 300 RUM easily smashes the boring old outdated slow af '06

with energy/velocity at 500 yards what the '06 does at the muzzle, so....what's so great about the 30.06 again ?


Nothing like “facts” that aren’t even close to the truth.

Federal Lists a 180g AB load for both the 30-06 and 300 RUM, at 2700fps and 3200fps respectively. When you compare the energy charts for those loads, it is clear the RUM provides more energy down range. But does the RUM’s energy at 500 yards equal the 30-06 at the muzzle? No – more like 150 yards. The 30-06 provides 2913fpe at the muzzle while the RUM provides 2085fpe at 500.

To achieve the admittedly impressive muzzle velocities, the RUM burns 50-75% more powder. While the 30-06 can get to 2700fps with around 57,000 PSI, the RUM requires around 63,000 PSI to get to 3200fps. The .30-06 will have much longer barrel life as a result. The 30-06 in a 8.3 pound rifle can get there with just over 21 ft-lbs of recoil, the same weight RUM load generates over 40 ft-lbs and a 37% greater recoil velocity. The cited Federal ammo for the Rum costs $68.99 at midwayusa while the 30-06 ammo costs $37.99.

The truth is that a 30-06 will do everything most people need done a very high percentage of the time. My guess is over 99%. It does it with far less recoil, longer barrel life and ammo that is far less expensive and available in a much greater variety.

Use a RUM if you wish. I’ll stick with my 30-06. All three of them.


One thing that is not represented in this observation is the RUM is plenty capable of firing a 220 gr ELD-X load at 2,900 fps, while the 30-06 will launch a 178 gr ELD-X at about 2,735 fps. Comparing these two the RUM makes more energy at 350 yards than the 06 at the muzzle. Drifts 2.5" less and about 1.5" less in drop. The RUM is a very specialized beast and utilized by some who prefer heavy .30 cal projectiles flying fast and delivering big hits a 500 yards. I only point this out because to my way of thinking the RUM was designed for 200+ grain bullet use. At 500 yards the 06 is carrying 1,660 ft-lbs, drifting at 15" and dropping 37"; the RUM having 2,560 ft-lbs, 11.5" of drift and 31" of drop. The 06 is plenty good in the field, the RUM is more in comparison to the 30-378 Wby and other bigger 30s that are less carried by most afield. For me I'd rather move up to a 338 Win Mag with 250s at 2,700 fps if I need a big jump from the 06.