Why don't you use your google fu and look up long haired red lab!
I know all 3 of the Cocker/Springer breeders/trainiers from Bismarck that I referenced earlier in this thread. Between the 3 of them occasionally there's an "Oops" breeding of a springer with a cocker. Happens when somebody doesn't catch a female in heat quickly enough. They've nicknamed the combo a "Sprocker". Before I owned him, my 1st male cocker sired such a litter in fact.
My dog and the mother springer were both very well pedigreed. That didn't make their mutt pups AKC anything other than mutts. They made great pets and hunting dogs, a friend got one of the females from the Oops litter.
There's no "Long Haired Red Lab" that's all Labrador Retriever. In fact, given your "Red Lab's" narrow head, a bit of Irish Setter isn't out of the realm of possibility either.
Might as well save your breath - he doesn't want to hear it, or believe it.
The other problem is $ . AKC just cares about the money from registering litters. Breed standards be damned.
crittrgittr,
In short, the problem is this "Breeders that don’t dq these dogs from breeding are the problem.".
The dogs are a result of two copies of a recessive gene, which disqualifies them from the show ring, which is intended to better the breed according to the "Standard" for labs. Of course, that doesn't mean a "long haired red lab" isn't a Lab, it just means it doesn't meet the breed standard.
A long haired Lab is a Labrador Retriever with two copies of a recessive gene which causes them to grow a longer, finer, wavier coat than typical Labradors.
Long coated Labs are still purebred dogs which can be entered onto breed registries. But their coats disqualify them from the show bench.
That story goes on to say they are still Labs though. And can be registered as such, but they don't meet the Breed Standard and can't be shown in the US, Britain, and Australia:
https://www.thelabradorsite.com/long-haired-lab/I'm sure there's other websites about the issue also.
But, not meeting the standard is kind of a no-no in the dog world, otherwise why have a standard in the first place.
Kind of like with our whippets. My wife had a gorgeous bitch, that did fairly well in some shows as a junior, and at one coursing event one of the Bay Area whippet club officers looked at her before a race and said "Damn, she really is a fine looking bitch" . But she was never bred because cryptorchidism (one or both testicles don't descend) ran in her lines, due to her breeder not attempting to weed it out. Great dog, multiple other titles in Obedience, Coursing, Rally, and such but not in the show ring. Yes, still a whippet, but not a candidate for improving the breed according to the Standard.
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