I like the point early in this thread about the bowhunter kills. Many thousands of hunters kill elk with their bows and arrows every year (and I have been blessed to be one of them), and I bet there are very few of them that would not have been better served with a 30-30 loaded with a Nosler 170 Partition than their arrow. And how many more of them would have killed the elk they either lost or declined to even shoot had they been carrying the 30-30 instead? Thinking back, I can recall half a dozen fine bulls I would almost certainly have put in the freezer had I held my M-94 in my hands rather than my longbow.
This is just a thought game but it points out that in the hands of careful hunters being choosy about their shots, the 30-30 has all it takes.

Cheers,
Rex