Pete53, on a hunt where getting a deer was the main goal, see your point. But many times my reason for going out is to spend an enjoyable day in the country, and if I miss an opportunity because my rifle isn't up to the job, I'm ok with that. I've passed up deer I could have easily taken as well as deer a little out of range for that reason. I'm not talking about an expensive hunt, but a Saturday to get out in the hills 1/2 hour away and coulee walk. Might bring a deer home, might not......objective is to get away from this phone and my computer. And an open sighted carbine is perfect for that.

Last edited by 300_savage; 05/06/21.