The main issue in this thread, and every other one that *certain people* get involved in, is that they create a ballistics binary in which the cartridge with slightly inferior ballistics is 100% disqualified from being useful at all, in spite of it having a decades-old track record of successfully putting down big game. The Creedmoor has a better trajectory at 700 yards. Great. Who is shooting elk at 700 yards and what does that have to do with the 308 or 30-06 at 150 yards? The answers are hopefully no one and nothing, respectively. I own a 6.5 and a 280. They both work. And one working doesn't spoil the other. Also own a 30-30. Is it a 400 yard cartridge? No. But apparently because it can't match the ballistics of a 7-08 it hasn't accounted for untold game for well over a century... yeesh.
