Exhibit #1 Homosexuals become very offended and violent.
Christian brothers, please take note. Faithful Word Baptist Church, located in a suburb of Los Angeles, serves as a good testimony, an example of appropriate behavior under the assaults of the sodomites of Southern California. Some of you retired preachers should consider that what may not have been relevant twenty years ago, has become a sad state of affairs in many communities now. It even seems to be an issue at the campfire. To the shame of those involved, Inappropriate pictorials in the act of sodomy were even posted on our Sunday sermon post for christians by those dogs. Read the attacks likely to follow as well as those at Sunday's Sermon from the Red Hot Preaching Conference in another church in Los Angeles. Preaching against the sins that plague our nation is highly offensive to some. Not the sins, mind you, but rather the preaching against it.
EVERY Christian is going to be tested. Count on it.
And many will fail. However, God promised that no one will be tempted beyond his ability to resist. He guaranteed that we'll always have a way out before we fall. When someone says the devil made you do it, that's true but you were weak and didn't listen to Gods promise. You gave up too soon.
EVERY Christian is going to be tested. Count on it.
Yes
For the saved:
Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
I John
Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error."
How many videos do you need to post before you can say that you've resisted the devil? Preaching to the choir seems like a pretty cowardly and pointless way to confront evil. Why don't you head on down to the gay bar or the library transvestite reading hour and confront these sinners? Your struggle with homosexuality is becoming tedious, you really should come out of the closet or try that aversion therapy again. Posting videos isn't hacking it.
He's back from the gay rodeo, huddled in his mom's basement frantically looking up homo videos to post here. If Crappy had any nads he'd head on over to a gay pride parade and confront those devils.
Thanks for posting Jim. I think this will be our second exhibit. The legal authorities are attempting to supercede God's parental authority and do harm in the name of tolerance. I didn't know about that. It's completely satanic. Only three of the numerous points are....
A. Forces doctors to murder unborn babies B. Violates parental authority C. Provision to convert children to homo tranny deathstyle. (Lifestyle is the wrong word since the diseases they get shorten the average lifespan by decades.)
Jesus explains how these trends will ramp up starting at verse 3. Verse 14 is what I'm most concerned with. I want to see as many as possible saved; not just for those years, but forever.
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀
Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀
Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
Good riddance to insincere scoffers that do everything possible to piss in the punch bowl. Then whine and blame the preacher when he calls you on it. I have LOTS of patience for sincere folks. I don't have time to waste on troublemakers. Please go to antlers.
Wonder how much he gets paid to generate the traffic?
Their church was burned to the ground by flaming flamingos. They can only afford to pay $1,000 per click. Do you want to call the pastor and ask how you can get some cash flow Jim?
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀 Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
Help - please - point out the Christian spirit and behavior in that post.
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀 Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
Help - please - point out the Christian spirit and behavior in that post.
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀 Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
Help - please - point out the Christian spirit and behavior in that post.
I can see why his first post wasn't repostable . The only "preacher" he will ever settle with will be the bearded lady.
Then whine and blame the preacher when he calls you on it.
Laughing, you're a lot of things but a real preacher isn't one of them. I've lost track of how many things you have claimed to be in your short time here while racking up an average 14 posts a day, sometimes up to 30 posts a day. You came to a website largely made up of conservative heterosexual men and think we need to see and hear your endless references and videos regarding sexual deviance.
What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? You are a coward. If you were really trying to change hearts and minds you wouldn't be coming here to preach to the choir.
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀 Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
Help - please - point out the Christian spirit and behavior in that post.
Funny you don't reply to Crappy's hate fill vitriol with that comment.
And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground; 2And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night. 3And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat. 4But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: 5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 7And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. 8Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. 9And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door. 10But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. 11And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.
A. Two angels who appeared as men, new to.the city, went to rescue Lot's family and any other believers. B. Lot was aware of the violent behavior common in the city. Vs. 2,3 C. Word spread quickly of the new visitors. All the men of the city of all ages went to the house of Lot to have their way with them. Vs. 5-8 D. Lot tried to placate them, but they were implacable. By this, they were not content, but wished to fully fulfill their desires. Keep this characteristic in mind. E. They were so prone to violence and implacability that they decided not only to rape the visitors, but also gang rape their old neighbor out of spite that he appealed to some sense of reasonable compromise in their conscious. Vs. 9 G. In spite of them being blinded, they continued to try to rape Lot and his visitors.
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀 Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
Help - please - point out the Christian spirit and behavior in that post.
Funny you don't reply to Crappy's hate fill vitriol with that comment.
Hypocrisy know no bounds.
Anyone who believes the Dumbster is a Christian I have some ocean front property to sell you in Arizona.
And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground; 2And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night. 3And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat. 4But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: 5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 7And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. 8Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. 9And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door. 10But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. 11And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.
A. Two angels who appeared as men, new to.the city, went to rescue Lot's family and any other believers. B. Lot was aware of the violent behavior common in the city. Vs. 2,3 C. Word spread quickly of the new visitors. All the men of the city of all ages went to the house of Lot to have their way with them. Vs. 5-8 D. Lot tried to placate them, but they were implacable. By this, they were not content, but wished to fully fulfill their desires. Keep this characteristic in mind. E. They were so prone to violence and implacability that they decided not only to rape the visitors, but also gang rape their old neighbor out of spite that he appealed to some sense of reasonable compromise in their conscious. Vs. 9 G. In spite of them being blinded, they continued to try to rape Lot and his visitors.
Think about that.
Comments from believers?
I believe that you wish you were there. You would be both engine and caboose.
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀
Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
You may not have had much of a love for Christianity in the first place if a post on this forum has caused you to turn away. I do have a point blank question for you. Is the fact that someone post a video or expresses the idea that the LGBT lifestyle is not tolerated by the Bible something you find offensive?
Oh....... Other than HC in the vid stroking his wanna be preacher leader role on 24.
Another reason why the religous forum you all had to your special pleasure went away... Wasnt cause all you religous guys had your little my way or the highway spats among each other. It was because Bin knew he was losing hit and veiw revenue from not having all religous threads up here.
Cause they cause controversy.... And controversy = hits and veiws... Hits and veiws equal Benjamins....
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀
Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
You may not have had much of a love for Christianity in the first place if a post on this forum has caused you to turn away. I do have a point blank question for you. Is the fact that someone post a video or expresses the idea that the LGBT lifestyle is not tolerated by the Bible something you find offensive?
No one on this site turned me away from organized religion. That happened long before I ever even knew the 24 hour campfire existed.
The bible is a guideline and according to it homosexuality is a sin. Do I think it’s a sin yes and they will be judged when their time comes but not by me and not by you. What I find disturbing is Happy Crappers fixation with the subject which borders on deranged. So I think the guy is honest? Not one bit. In fact you will find most members here think he’s full of crap.
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀
Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
You may not have had much of a love for Christianity in the first place if a post on this forum has caused you to turn away. I do have a point blank question for you. Is the fact that someone post a video or expresses the idea that the LGBT lifestyle is not tolerated by the Bible something you find offensive?
No one on this site turned me away from organized religion. That happened long before I ever even knew the 24 hour campfire existed.
The bible is a guideline and according to it homosexuality is a sin. Do I think it’s a sin yes and they will be judged when their time comes but not by me and not by you. What I find disturbing is Happy Crappers fixation with the subject which borders on deranged. So I think the guy is honest? Not one bit. In fact you will find most members here think he’s full of crap.
Your last sentence is far from accurate. Just because others don’t rail against HC doesn’t mean “most members here “ think that he’s fulla crap.
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀
Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
You may not have had much of a love for Christianity in the first place if a post on this forum has caused you to turn away. I do have a point blank question for you. Is the fact that someone post a video or expresses the idea that the LGBT lifestyle is not tolerated by the Bible something you find offensive?
No one on this site turned me away from organized religion. That happened long before I ever even knew the 24 hour campfire existed.
The bible is a guideline and according to it homosexuality is a sin. Do I think it’s a sin yes and they will be judged when their time comes but not by me and not by you. What I find disturbing is Happy Crappers fixation with the subject which borders on deranged. So I think the guy is honest? Not one bit. In fact you will find most members here think he’s full of crap.
Your last sentence is far from accurate. Just because others don’t rail against HC doesn’t mean “most members here “ think that he’s fulla crap.
Jmo
Whatever you say Toot. Just remember to wear your mask
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀
Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
You may not have had much of a love for Christianity in the first place if a post on this forum has caused you to turn away. I do have a point blank question for you. Is the fact that someone post a video or expresses the idea that the LGBT lifestyle is not tolerated by the Bible something you find offensive?
No one on this site turned me away from organized religion. That happened long before I ever even knew the 24 hour campfire existed.
The bible is a guideline and according to it homosexuality is a sin. Do I think it’s a sin yes and they will be judged when their time comes but not by me and not by you. What I find disturbing is Happy Crappers fixation with the subject which borders on deranged. So I think the guy is honest? Not one bit. In fact you will find most members here think he’s full of crap.
Your last sentence is far from accurate. Just because others don’t rail against HC doesn’t mean “most members here “ think that he’s fulla crap.
Jmo
Whatever you say Toot. Just remember to wear your mask
I am all for a good discussion and even debate but when you engage with a zealot with an obvious fixation and problem with sexual perversion it goes nowhere and only encourages him. Someone suggested he may actually be that equally fixated preacher that he displays videos of. I hadn't thought of that but it is a perfectly plausible scenario. Just as readers of True Detective were often found to be young men with a fascination with gruesome sexual based murder I believe a good many of these obsessed anti- LGBTQ preachers have a bee in their bonnet. I agree that all this LGBTQ crap is serious sin as is a bunch of other stuff but it is beyond strange to be constantly in a rage about it. Just let that preacher die on the vine. He will go away.
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀
Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
You may not have had much of a love for Christianity in the first place if a post on this forum has caused you to turn away. I do have a point blank question for you. Is the fact that someone post a video or expresses the idea that the LGBT lifestyle is not tolerated by the Bible something you find offensive?
What is offensive about Steven Anderson is his own doctrine of Andersonism. Anderson has his own reprobate doctrine, which claims certain people (including homosexuals) are beyond salvation.
Yes, homosexuality is an abominable sin. I think most agree with that, but the rub is Anderson’s reprobate doctrine, which is a form of limited atonement. It limits Jesus’ blood sacrifice. Scripture is clear that Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection paid for everyone’s sins, including the homosexuals (who may eventually become saved). Even the worst sinners can be saved, and we are all sinners.
Anderson believes homosexuals deserve the death penalty and then should go to hell with no chance for redemption. In 2014, Anderson called for the killing of all homos to stop AIDS. Andersonism says God has eternally rejected homosexuals, and they cannot be saved. That is completely false teaching and not scriptural. That is what is offensive and blatantly in-your-face scriptural wrong.
It is quite obvious Anderson is a hate-filled egotistical psychopath, a false teacher, and a radicalized wacko. Sadly, Andersonism has other heretical doctrines as well…
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀
Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
You may not have had much of a love for Christianity in the first place if a post on this forum has caused you to turn away. I do have a point blank question for you. Is the fact that someone post a video or expresses the idea that the LGBT lifestyle is not tolerated by the Bible something you find offensive?
No one on this site turned me away from organized religion. That happened long before I ever even knew the 24 hour campfire existed.
The bible is a guideline and according to it homosexuality is a sin. Do I think it’s a sin yes and they will be judged when their time comes but not by me and not by you. What I find disturbing is Happy Crappers fixation with the subject which borders on deranged. So I think the guy is honest? Not one bit. In fact you will find most members here think he’s full of crap.
Your last sentence is far from accurate. Just because others don’t rail against HC doesn’t mean “most members here “ think that he’s fulla crap.
Jmo
Whatever you say Toot. Just remember to wear your mask
What I said is true.
What you said to Jim ain’t true.
Oh really? How so? Should we take a straw pole of the people that think Happy Crapper is full of crap?
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀
Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
You may not have had much of a love for Christianity in the first place if a post on this forum has caused you to turn away. I do have a point blank question for you. Is the fact that someone post a video or expresses the idea that the LGBT lifestyle is not tolerated by the Bible something you find offensive?
No one on this site turned me away from organized religion. That happened long before I ever even knew the 24 hour campfire existed.
The bible is a guideline and according to it homosexuality is a sin. Do I think it’s a sin yes and they will be judged when their time comes but not by me and not by you. What I find disturbing is Happy Crappers fixation with the subject which borders on deranged. So I think the guy is honest? Not one bit. In fact you will find most members here think he’s full of crap.
Your last sentence is far from accurate. Just because others don’t rail against HC doesn’t mean “most members here “ think that he’s fulla crap.
Jmo
Whatever you say Toot. Just remember to wear your mask
What I said is true.
What you said to Jim ain’t true.
Oh really? How so? Should we take a straw pole of the people that think Happy Crapper is full of crap?
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀 Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
Help - please - point out the Christian spirit and behavior in that post.
Funny you don't reply to Crappy's hate fill vitriol with that comment.
My perception - what you cite is really not "funny" to you. More telling is the fact that what you say is "funny" is based on zero knowledge - not an inkling - of what I may have said to, or about, the person you call Crappy. Ever think before you preach?
Campfire trash is now a thing. EE, the crappy hamper and tootie and a few other closet creeps don't qualify for this title so will not be smoted by the god of hypocrites' giant kukri.
Should a certain rodent from oregon be creating a new award?
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀 Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
Help - please - point out the Christian spirit and behavior in that post.
Vengeance is mine saith the Lord
Yes, true of the Lord - but what does that have to do with what you wrote there? Or, are you considering yourself to be the Lord and trying to wreak vengeance yourself? Help - please - point out the Christian spirit and behavior in that post.
Holy smokes I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. Usually try to stay in the gun sections but much like morbid curiosity over a car wreck, I HAD to look.
Campfire trash is now a thing. EE, the crappy hamper and tootie and a few other closet creeps don't qualify for this title so will not be smoted by the god of hypocrites' giant kukri.
Should a certain rodent from oregon be creating a new award?
#trashiestcamper
mike r
Well you ain’t a closet creep. You’re out in the open.
Hurry or you’ll miss your favorite long running tranny show on the strip there in lv. Be sure and bring your family.
Hardly. I just can’t stand The Crapper and his form of Christianity and I’m not sure how many times I have to say that.
Hopefully Happy is back from the rodeo in PA and he can fill us in on the Ouster Bar happenings. 🚀
Oh and I’m done with this fool. If you believe what he and that hate filled preacher he posts think than so be it. If you don’t think all people can somehow find salvation it’s not me who has the problem.
Campfire trash is now a thing. EE, the crappy hamper and tootie and a few other closet creeps don't qualify for this title so will not be smoted by the god of hypocrites' giant kukri.
Should a certain rodent from oregon be creating a new award?
#trashiestcamper
mike r
Well you ain’t a closet creep. You’re out in the open.
Hurry or you’ll miss your favorite long running tranny show on the strip there in lv. Be sure and bring your family.
I am all for a good discussion and even debate but when you engage with a zealot with an obvious fixation and problem with sexual perversion it goes nowhere and only encourages him. Someone suggested he may actually be that equally fixated preacher that he displays videos of. I hadn't thought of that but it is a perfectly plausible scenario.
Somebody hack his Amazon account and we'll find out. If he orders Brylcreem by the case, but no shaving products, the jig is up!!
Campfire trash is now a thing. EE, the crappy hamper and tootie and a few other closet creeps don't qualify for this title so will not be smoted by the god of hypocrites' giant kukri.
Should a certain rodent from oregon be creating a new award?
#trashiestcamper
mike r
Well you ain’t a closet creep. You’re out in the open.
Hurry or you’ll miss your favorite long running tranny show on the strip there in lv. Be sure and bring your family.
You try so hard. LMAO
mike r
Actually it’s far too easy, Lil mikey. Don’t miss your favorite show.
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀
Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
You may not have had much of a love for Christianity in the first place if a post on this forum has caused you to turn away. I do have a point blank question for you. Is the fact that someone post a video or expresses the idea that the LGBT lifestyle is not tolerated by the Bible something you find offensive?
No one on this site turned me away from organized religion. That happened long before I ever even knew the 24 hour campfire existed.
The bible is a guideline and according to it homosexuality is a sin. Do I think it’s a sin yes and they will be judged when their time comes but not by me and not by you. What I find disturbing is Happy Crappers fixation with the subject which borders on deranged. So I think the guy is honest? Not one bit. In fact you will find most members here think he’s full of crap.
You have a very weak understanding of the Bible and Christianity.
Christian are supposed to judge the world around them. God alone makes the final judgment, but Christians are absolutely supposed to make judgments about the sin in the world. We are also supposed to expose it for what it is. We are not supposed to be silent.
"Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. " Eph 5:11
Hardly. I just can’t stand The Crapper and his form of Christianity and I’m not sure how many times I have to say that.
Hopefully Happy is back from the rodeo in PA and he can fill us in on the Ouster Bar happenings. 🚀
Oh and I’m done with this fool. If you believe what he and that hate filled preacher he posts think than so be it. If you don’t think all people can somehow find salvation it’s not me who has the problem.
I don't think you read the Bible.
All people can find salvation, but all people will NOT find salvation. I pray you find the narrow path.
"Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it." Mat 7:13
And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground; 2And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night. 3And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat. 4But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: 5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 7And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. 8Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. 9And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door. 10But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. 11And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.
A. Two angels who appeared as men, new to.the city, went to rescue Lot's family and any other believers. B. Lot was aware of the violent behavior common in the city. Vs. 2,3 C. Word spread quickly of the new visitors. All the men of the city of all ages went to the house of Lot to have their way with them. Vs. 5-8 D. Lot tried to placate them, but they were implacable. By this, they were not content, but wished to fully fulfill their desires. Keep this characteristic in mind. E. They were so prone to violence and implacability that they decided not only to rape the visitors, but also gang rape their old neighbor out of spite that he appealed to some sense of reasonable compromise in their conscious. Vs. 9 G. In spite of them being blinded, they continued to try to rape Lot and his visitors.
Think about that.
Comments from believers?
The degeneracy of man is very deep.
"Nothing is covered up that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known." Luke 12:2
Hardly. I just can’t stand The Crapper and his form of Christianity and I’m not sure how many times I have to say that.
Hopefully Happy is back from the rodeo in PA and he can fill us in on the Ouster Bar happenings. 🚀
Oh and I’m done with this fool. If you believe what he and that hate filled preacher he posts think than so be it. If you don’t think all people can somehow find salvation it’s not me who has the problem.
I don't think you read the Bible.
All people can find salvation, but all people will NOT find salvation. I pray you find the narrow path.
"Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it." Mat 7:13
I really couldn’t care less what you think I do or don’t do. Your interpretation is different than mine. Oh and I read from it every day.
I must have struck a nerve now that all of Happy Campers band members are here. Carry on gents.
Hardly. I just can’t stand The Crapper and his form of Christianity and I’m not sure how many times I have to say that.
Hopefully Happy is back from the rodeo in PA and he can fill us in on the Ouster Bar happenings. 🚀
Oh and I’m done with this fool. If you believe what he and that hate filled preacher he posts think than so be it. If you don’t think all people can somehow find salvation it’s not me who has the problem.
I don't think you read the Bible.
All people can find salvation, but all people will NOT find salvation. I pray you find the narrow path.
"Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it." Mat 7:13
I really couldn’t care less what you think I do or don’t do. Your interpretation is different than mine. Oh and I read from it every day.
I must have struck a nerve now that all of Happy Campers band members are here. Carry on gents.
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀
Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
You may not have had much of a love for Christianity in the first place if a post on this forum has caused you to turn away. I do have a point blank question for you. Is the fact that someone post a video or expresses the idea that the LGBT lifestyle is not tolerated by the Bible something you find offensive?
No one on this site turned me away from organized religion. That happened long before I ever even knew the 24 hour campfire existed.
The bible is a guideline and according to it homosexuality is a sin. Do I think it’s a sin yes and they will be judged when their time comes but not by me and not by you. What I find disturbing is Happy Crappers fixation with the subject which borders on deranged. So I think the guy is honest? Not one bit. In fact you will find most members here think he’s full of crap.
You have a very weak understanding of the Bible and Christianity.
Christian are supposed to judge the world around them. God alone makes the final judgment, but Christians are absolutely supposed to make judgments about the sin in the world. We are also supposed to expose it for what it is. We are not supposed to be silent.
"Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. " Eph 5:11
Good to see you are holding down the fort while I was gone. Back is sore, but will sleep well tonight.
The sermon posted Sunday is now up to 20 pages of blather that's not worth reading other than two pages or so that make up believers. To put that in a different perspective...imagine Sunday morning service and you get half a dozen visitors. The sermon begins and he announces his topic. Next thing you know, the visitors start yelling insults at the preacher and taking over the service. They're a bunch of flamers yucking it up and hurling insults back and forth. Then they start doing/showing what was posted on the Transvestite page ( I took down the link because it's not fit for the forum.) I can't speak for churches that hire a preacher with lace on her underwear, but the guys would be picked up and thrown out with the trash long before it got that far.
I know this is just a forum and not a church.. However, there's a lot of men that don't have a good church and like to hear some teaching/ preaching on a Sunday. Some don't like what I post and that doesn't matter to me. I assume they have can tune into anything they want on the internet. I try to pick from a few preachers that tend to hold the interest of people from various backgrounds and stay with the Word faithfully on major doctrines.
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀
Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
You may not have had much of a love for Christianity in the first place if a post on this forum has caused you to turn away. I do have a point blank question for you. Is the fact that someone post a video or expresses the idea that the LGBT lifestyle is not tolerated by the Bible something you find offensive?
No one on this site turned me away from organized religion. That happened long before I ever even knew the 24 hour campfire existed.
The bible is a guideline and according to it homosexuality is a sin. Do I think it’s a sin yes and they will be judged when their time comes but not by me and not by you. What I find disturbing is Happy Crappers fixation with the subject which borders on deranged. So I think the guy is honest? Not one bit. In fact you will find most members here think he’s full of crap.
Many here seem to think, in my opinion, that we should just leave the LGBT alone and let them do what they want. Well lets look at the boy scouts. The LGBT became leaders in that organization and it's destroyed as well as some innocent young hearts. As I've said before I didn't watch the video that HP posted. Not because of him but I just don't watch much of anything that requires so much time. So I'm not commenting on the preacher at all. What I am commenting on is the fact that if the church leaders don't grow a spine and stand up to these people many will suffer. They are actively lobbying congress to pass laws that limit the church's ability to curtail their agenda, which is the same as what they did to the boy scouts. Some here accuse the OP and the preacher of wanting to outlaw being queer. I doubt that to be true but guess what. The LGBT people have gotten a foothold in the bill called the "Equality Act" that makes it illegal for churches to stop these people from being teachers and advancing their lifestyle. So the exact opposite of what these trolls are saying is taking place. If you have this sinful problem and truly get saved and delivered from sin, all sin, you will quit doing these things. It's that simple. They don't want to change but they do want to change the church. This is very wrong.
As far as many thinking the OP is full of it that's a very suggestive statement that I find no reason to give much thought to. What I do see is allot of very ignorant people seeming to defend the destruction the LGBT movement is bringing about in favor of trashing someone over a video. Every one of these threads ends up being more about trashing someone that actually engaging in some educational thought and discussion. I really think most of this comes from too much drinking or drug use on the part of those involved.
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀
Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
You may not have had much of a love for Christianity in the first place if a post on this forum has caused you to turn away. I do have a point blank question for you. Is the fact that someone post a video or expresses the idea that the LGBT lifestyle is not tolerated by the Bible something you find offensive?
No one on this site turned me away from organized religion. That happened long before I ever even knew the 24 hour campfire existed.
The bible is a guideline and according to it homosexuality is a sin. Do I think it’s a sin yes and they will be judged when their time comes but not by me and not by you. What I find disturbing is Happy Crappers fixation with the subject which borders on deranged. So I think the guy is honest? Not one bit. In fact you will find most members here think he’s full of crap.
Many here seem to think, in my opinion, that we should just leave the LGBT alone and let them do what they want. Well lets look at the boy scouts. The LGBT became leaders in that organization and it's destroyed as well as some innocent young hearts. As I've said before I didn't watch the video that HP posted. Not because of him but I just don't watch much of anything that requires so much time. So I'm not commenting on the preacher at all. What I am commenting on is the fact that if the church leaders don't grow a spine and stand up to these people many will suffer. They are actively lobbying congress to pass laws that limit the church's ability to curtail their agenda, which is the same as what they did to the boy scouts. Some here accuse the OP and the preacher of wanting to outlaw being queer. I doubt that to be true but guess what. The LGBT people have gotten a foothold in the bill called the "Equality Act" that makes it illegal for churches to stop these people from being teachers and advancing their lifestyle. So the exact opposite of what these trolls are saying is taking place. If you have this sinful problem and truly get saved and delivered from sin, all sin, you will quit doing these things. It's that simple. They don't want to change but they do want to change the church. This is very wrong.
As far as many thinking the OP is full of it that's a very suggestive statement that I find no reason to give much thought to. What I do see is allot of very ignorant people seeming to defend the destruction the LGBT movement is bringing about in favor of trashing someone over a video. Every one of these threads ends up being more about trashing someone that actually engaging in some educational thought and discussion. I really think most of this comes from too much drinking or drug use on the part of those involved.
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀 Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
Help - please - point out the Christian spirit and behavior in that post.
Funny you don't reply to Crappy's hate fill vitriol with that comment.
My perception - what you cite is really not "funny" to you. More telling is the fact that what you say is "funny" is based on zero knowledge - not an inkling - of what I may have said to, or about, the person you call Crappy. Ever think before you preach?
Fair enough. Post up where you have called out Crappy Hamper for his hate filled videos and speech here and I will concede your point.
"Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. " Eph 5:11
It always ends up with Paul being quoted, a man obviously with a screw loose and some serious hang-ups. That is if he even wrote all that stuff which maybe was attributed to him posthumously. Maybe we should follow Jesus and "judge not lest ye be judged" and then the admonition about trying to be concerned about the mote in another's eye when you have crosstie in your own. It is always best to check out Jesus at times like this.
"Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. " Eph 5:11
It always ends up with Paul being quoted, a man obviously with a screw loose and some serious hang-ups. That is if he even wrote all that stuff which maybe was attributed to him posthumously. Maybe we should follow Jesus and "judge not lest ye be judged" and then the admonition about trying to be concerned about the mote in another's eye when you have crosstie in your own. It is always best to check out Jesus at times like this.
What are you saying Hastings?
We are supposed to shut up and sit down when a reprobate jumps up to disrupt a service? Are we supposed to not Preach on the celebration of homo pride month, Bobby has two Daddies story time at the local library when a pedo shows up with a strap on weiner for the boys and girls? For crying out loud, this church was vandalized, then fire bombed by sodomites! I'm surprised to hear that.
1. How would you handle the situation differently from the pastor?
2. How should I address the issue? Silence Hastings?
"Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. " Eph 5:11
It always ends up with Paul being quoted, a man obviously with a screw loose and some serious hang-ups. That is if he even wrote all that stuff which maybe was attributed to him posthumously. Maybe we should follow Jesus and "judge not lest ye be judged" and then the admonition about trying to be concerned about the mote in another's eye when you have crosstie in your own. It is always best to check out Jesus at times like this.
I like what Jesus says in Luke.
Quote
It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.
Your words: "Some here accuse the OP and the preacher of wanting to outlaw being queer. I doubt that to be true..."
Then you are not well informed of the content of Crappy's videos that you don't have the time to watch. The "pastor" Steven Anderson stated in one of the first videos that Crappy posted here, that if he had a button he could push that would kill all the LGBTQ people, he would happily push it. Instead of the Christian cliché "Love the sinner, Hate the sin," Crappy and pastor Steven's version is "Hate the sin, Kill the sinner."
It's pretty obvious that Crappy isn't winning any hearts and minds here. All he's doing is gleefully sowing division while puffing himself up with his delusions of being a preacher. He's a coward, and so are those in the videos he posts. Steven Anderson is banned from entering over 30 countries in the world due to the hate he spews.
Do you really need someone like that to quote or read you a Bible passage and then tell you how to believe, based on their interpretation of it? Can't you read and think for yourself, or are you too lazy to do that that as well?
Good to see that crappy hamper is spreading the good word like the fuggin clap all over the hunters campfire.
But he is like herpes, the gift that keeps on giving.
It's good to know exactly where you stand. I forgotten all about you.
I stand with the Baptist Church that's reaching that part of the country with the forgiveness of God in spite of the scum you are defending. Good for YOU bubby. Stand for the violent butt sex crowd and against the decent families.
You know this church explosion could be an inside job. A Reichstag Fire type of event. It happened in January, I wonder if the preacher was offered a polygraph. The FBI was called in on the case. If I was investigating it that is the first thing I would do. I have known of a few cases of law enforcement officers seeking attention to shoot up their own vehicle or boat. One of my co-workers did that twice. Got nailed with it the 2nd time. Volunteer firemen are known for setting fires for attention and glory.
I don't care to win YOUR heart and soul anymore. You made it very clear a year ago and in many threads attacking Christians and God's Word what you were like. You constantly pursue these christian threads like the devil you are and tell christians that they don't live up to your view of what christianity "aught to be." News flash, it's not like you and never wanted to be. Go find a Hillary Clinton type that wants to be a minister (witch) in the UMC. You'll have plenty more in common.
You know this church explosion could be an inside job. A Reichstag Fire type of event. It happened in January, I wonder if the preacher was offered a polygraph. The FBI was called in on the case. If I was investigating it that is the first thing I would do. I have known of a few cases of law enforcement officers seeking attention to shoot up their own vehicle or boat. One of my co-workers did that twice. Got nailed with it the 2nd time. Volunteer firemen are known for setting fires for attention and glory.
Wow.
So you think someone in the church is suspect? Who?
Now that that thought is planted in the minds of others as your own, please investigate and let me know what you find out?
What about the two questions? I'd like your opinion Hastings.
Good to see that crappy hamper is spreading the good word like the fuggin clap all over the hunters campfire.
But he is like herpes, the gift that keeps on giving.
It's good to know exactly where you stand. I forgotten all about you.
I stand with the Baptist Church that's reaching that part of the country with the forgiveness of God in spite of the scum you are defending. Good for YOU bubby. Stand for the violent butt sex crowd and against the decent families.
I'll stand for God and His people.
Looks like your good at reach arounds because I didn’t defend any of that. I’m pointing out you ur merely full of schist.
I don't care to win YOUR heart and soul anymore. Laughing, you're a buffoon.
You made it very clear a year ago and in many threads attacking Christians and God's Word what you were like. You are a lying POS and your misdirection demonstrates the snake you are. I'm not attacking Christians, I'm attacking you and your asshat pastor Anderson. You constantly pursue these christian threads like the devil you are and tell christians that they don't live up to your view of what christianity "aught to be." News flash, it's not like you and never wanted to be. Go find a Hillary Clinton type that wants to be a minister (witch) in the UMC. You'll have plenty more in common.
I’m going to make an exception about my personal beliefs, just this one time, by saying... I’m all for increasing fetus abortive training for a mother’s personal, home use.
That way mothers, like Happy Glamper’s old hag, would have learned how to properly spear his head with a coat hanger, instead of just nicking his brain, making him what he is today.
I’m going to make an exception about my personal beliefs, just this one time, by saying... I’m all for increasing fetus abortive training for a mother’s personal, home use.
That way mothers, like Happy Glamper’s old hag, would have learned how to properly spear his head with a coat hanger, instead of just nicking his brain, making him what he is today.
What the unbelievers have to look forward to when they reject God's offer of forgiveness through faith in His Son.
Exhibit # 1
Genesis 19
Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.
"All liars shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." Revelation 21
Ever tell a lie? Let's face it. You all have done worse than that in the past hour.
What the unbelievers have to look forward to when they reject God's offer of forgiveness through faith in His Son.
Exhibit # 1
Genesis 19
Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.
"All liars shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." Revelation 21
Ever tell a lie? Let's face it. You all have done worse than that in the past hour.
From Beaver10s link above: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Anderson_(pastor)
Crappy's Hero Steven Anderson (or is it really Crappy?)
From Wikipedia Steven Lee Anderson (born July 24, 1981) is an American preacher and conspiracy theorist. Founder of the New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist movement, he is pastor of Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona. He has received international notoriety and condemnation for advocating the death penalty for homosexuals and praying for the deaths of former U.S. president Barack Obama and media personality Caitlyn Jenner. He produced a documentary titled Marching to Zion in which he "championed a wide range of anti-Semitic stereotypes", according to Matthew H. Brittingham of Emory University.
He has been banned from many countries, including Jamaica, Canada, the Schengen Area—which is made up of 22 of the 27 European Union countries, the Republic of Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. As of 2019, Anderson has been banned from more than thirty countries, including every English-speaking developed country other than the United States (his home country); and most English-speaking African countries. In September 2016, after he had announced his intention to travel to South Africa, Malusi Gigaba, the Minister for Home Affairs banned Anderson and his followers, citing the Constitution of South Africa and stating "I have identified Steven Anderson as an undesirable person to travel to South Africa"
Anderson established Faithful Word Baptist Church as a fundamentalist Independent Baptist church in Tempe, Arizona. Members of the church meet in an office space that is located inside a strip mall. Anderson is part of a connected but "...diffuse group of theologically-focused, anti-Semitic Christian conspiracists who deny the Holocaust." In May 2015, he posted a YouTube video, titled The Holocaust Hoax Exposed, promoting Holocaust denial.
Anderson made national news following a confrontation with United States Border Patrol agents at an interior checkpoint on Interstate 8, about 70 miles (110 km) east of Yuma, Arizona. He refused to move his car or roll down his windows, triggering a 90-minute standoff and the calling of Arizona Department of Public Safety officers to the scene. The confrontation ended when authorities broke Anderson's car windows, tased him, and forced him out of the vehicle. Anderson said they beat him while he was lying prone on the ground.
As of 2019, Anderson has been banned from more than thirty countries, including every English-speaking developed country other than the United States (his home country); and most English-speaking African countries.
Here is a tweet from one of the fathers that attended Anderson's church. Anderson's sons were sexually harassing some of the young teenage girls (13 and 14 years old) in the congregation. Anderson solved the problem by ex-communicating the girls families. Sex scandal link
Exhibit #1 Homosexuals become very offended and violent.
Christian brothers, please take note. First Works Baptist Church, located in a suburb of Los Angeles, serves as a good testimony, an example of appropriate behavior under the assaults of the sodomites of Southern California. Some of you retired preachers should consider that what may not have been relevant twenty years ago, has become a sad state of affairs in many communities now. It even seems to be an issue at the campfire. To the shame of those involved, Inappropriate pictorials in the act of sodomy were even posted on our Sunday sermon post for christians by those dogs. Read the attacks likely to follow as well as those at Sunday's Sermon from the Red Hot Preaching Conference in another church in Los Angeles. Preaching against the sins that plague our nation is highly offensive to some. Not the sins, mind you, but rather the preaching against it.
The church building was gutted by homos so that it's beyond the ability to move back. They had to find another place to move to.
Did this sermon get under the skin of such homosexuals in this forum that they can't help themselves but to attack that preacher and his church after all they went through? Then turn around and act like they've got some moral high ground. If they showed up acting like that at that church any Sunday, No doubt a couple Baptist ushers would pick them up and throw out the trash.
_____________ Those Bible passages I posted have proven to be true of some of the campfire members here it seems. Nobody would think a thing if you limp wristed nags didn't say anything. But just like the sodomites who were blinded, they just couldn't help themselves but to attack Lot and the angels. At least in that way, you resemble them to a T.
You made False accusations about death threats!
The ONLY death threats were those homosexuals who called that church prior to burning it down you trashy atheists!
It's been investigated and NO, it was NOT the pastor or members who did it!
Jesus Christ was absolutely correct.
"But now they have no cloke for their sin. He that hateth me hateth my Father also. "
And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, .And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door. But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.
Genesis 19
Even after being struck blind, they wearied themselves to find the door. It's sounding familiar here. You keep doing so wickedly. Sick reprobate trash.
Seems like he put these down on tablets and held these moral rules at the highest importance. Wouldnt it make more sense for a Christian to concentrate on obeying these first?
Seems like he put these down on tablets and held these moral rules at the highest importance. Wouldnt it make more sense for a Christian to concentrate on obeying these first?
It could very well have been LGBTQ activists/terrorists that threw an incendiary device into the church or on the other hand as I said earlier it could have been an inside job designed to draw attention and create the impression that the church was under violent attack. Also as I stated earlier, false attacks are often staged by the victim for a variety of reasons as in the police faking being shot at and volunteer firemen starting fires. In our town many years ago a controversial and somewhat batty Catholic priest shot up his own house to claim an assassination attempt. He was caught and convicted. I wonder since this incident happened months ago if there has been any arrest. Any persons of interest.
It could very well have been LGBTQ activists/terrorists that threw an incendiary device into the church or on the other hand as I said earlier it could have been an inside job designed to draw attention and create the impression that the church was under violent attack. Also as I stated earlier, false attacks are often staged by the victim for a variety of reasons as in the police faking being shot at and volunteer firemen starting fires. In our town many years ago a controversial and somewhat batty Catholic priest shot up his own house to claim an assassination attempt. He was caught and convicted. I wonder since this incident happened months ago if there has been any arrest. Any persons of interest.
I've worked in the public sector and am aware of the many crimes. The worse I've seen are those in positions of power and have used that power to rob and lie under oath, violate oaths of office. That's why I have great respect for the good guys who have to be around those types, yet retain integrity. Certain Public sector guys get angry with me when I point that out because they identify with the wrong ones. It's good to hear you admit what you too have seen. I've also been around many good churches and in spite of the fact that we are all sinners and far from the perfect as the Savior is perfect there's a big difference from the public sector. These people don't do church for pay. They volunteer time and hard effort to better their integrity and that of their families. This church reached out to help the helpless and offer the good news to the homosexuals as well as others. Read that again. Unlike many churches, however they do Not welcome them into their congregation and place them in access with their children. Like here at the Campfire they got plenty of verbal attacks like me and far worse once they announced the title of the service.
If you care to do a cursory look, you will discover that recorded threats were made public and led up to this crime which has been investigated. NO the pastor did NOT pull a false flag. The homos were doing as they do HERE. They spread disinformation. They made unverifiable false accusations. They disrupted the services with bullhorns shouting before the bombing. The parents had to shield their children's eyes from the indecent images that were forced upon them as they walked to and from the services....just as Rene,' posted at our Sunday sermon. That's the kind of people they are when they get into their mob mentality in particular.
Ol' campo is going full on crazy "christian" trying to pray his gay away.
That's a typical accusation by homosexuals. Isn't there anything lower you can think of to call him?
It doesn't bother me that a "man" of his character calls me names. I put him on ignore as a way to easily keep track of those who drag our Savior's good Name through the gutter in the vilest of ways. What a vile little worm would call my Lord what he did!
Ol' campo is going full on crazy "christian" trying to pray his gay away.
That's a typical accusation by homosexuals. Isn't there anything lower you can think of to call him?
It doesn't bother me that a "man" of his character calls me names. I put him on ignore as a way to easily keep track of those who drag our Savior's good Name through the gutter in the vilest of ways. What a vile little worm would call my Lord what he did!
Fahgs implicitly know what they do is wrong and there is nothing worse or more despicable. All the people rushing to their defense should take note.
Ol' campo is going full on crazy "christian" trying to pray his gay away.
That's a typical accusation by homosexuals. Isn't there anything lower you can think of to call him?
It doesn't bother me that a "man" of his character calls me names. I put him on ignore as a way to easily keep track of those who drag our Savior's good Name through the gutter in the vilest of ways. What a vile little worm would call my Lord what he did!
Fahgs implicitly know what they do is wrong and there is nothing worse or more despicable. All the people rushing to their defense should take note.
I think your right. You got me to thinking Tyrone....
The reasons are that I believe you are right.... 1. They are constantly defending "them" as closet homos...... 2. They get highly offended at the mere posting of a christian sermon title. 3. They have an extremely strong need to force society to accept their perversions in order to assuage their subconscious shame. 4. They lash out at and demonize those who won't accept their sodomy as normal behavior. For example, they go to the extremes of going to every event with little children and dressing and acting like some stage show that probably goes on in their bars. Who was it that was complimenting the Drag Queen from Rockey Picture Show on my last sermon thread? 5. They get hyper sensitive and break down when alone. When backed by fellow homos they throw tantrums and insults until they get the "courage" to burn down churches and neighborhoods..... Exhibit BLM . Established, promoted and carried out by homos.
That was just off the top of my head, so there must be plenty more reasons.
Tyrone: Aside from that Jim in Tennessee and maybe one or two more agitators on this site I don't believe we have ''people rushing to their defense''. It is more that there are most here finding the behavior disgusting and repulsive but are not staying in a rage about it constantly. Gays have an agenda which is complete and equal acceptance and the legal ability to recruit which sadly are goals they are reaching by use of their money and the the indifference of a large portion of the normal folks many of whom have weirdos in their families. I find their behavior beyond weird and repulsive but I also wonder about the mental state of one who is constantly in an almost crazed obsession over these people. The person on here that keeps posting videos and railing against this situation might do well to go dig some worms and go fishing and forget about this for a while. I think that as long as we don't give perverse behavior our stamp of approval God will be OK with us.
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Fahgs implicitly know what they do is wrong and there is nothing worse or more despicable. All the people rushing to their defense should take note.
Hastings, I respect your view on this and understand where you are coming from.
But I'll tell you a little bit about the mental state of people who vocally denounce sexual immorality, especially porn and homosexuality.
We're PISSED!
I got tired of the attempted molestations when I was just a child. I got tired of being out in the World as a young man and wondering if I was going to have to stick a switch blade into someone just so I could make it home and not be found dead in some ditch. Right now, I'm plumb wore out trying to keep these same sorts from victimizing my own children, even in places that are supposed to be the safest for them (Yeah, schools, scouts and churches, etc.). It's not just homosexuals trying to ruin my children, it's pornographers and drug pushers too. I hold all of them in the bitterest contempt and if I ever have opportunity to see any of them locked up or otherwise marginalized, I'm going for it.
Hastings, I respect your view on this and understand where you are coming from.
But I'll tell you a little bit about the mental state of people who vocally denounce sexual immorality, especially porn and homosexuality.
We're PISSED!
I got tired of the attempted molestations when I was just a child. I got tired of being out in the World as a young man and wondering if I was going to have to stick a switch blade into someone just so I could make it home and not be found dead in some ditch. Right now, I'm plumb wore out trying to keep these same sorts from victimizing my own children, even in places that are supposed to be the safest for them (Yeah, schools, scouts and churches, etc.). It's not just homosexuals trying to ruin my children, it's pornographers and drug pushers too. I hold all of them in the bitterest contempt and if I ever have opportunity to see any of them locked up or otherwise marginalized, I'm going for it.
Keep a close eye on your family members. They’re more likely to victimize your children than anyone else.
Ol' campo is going full on crazy "christian" trying to pray his gay away.
That's a typical accusation by homosexuals. Isn't there anything lower you can think of to call him?
It doesn't bother me that a "man" of his character calls me names. I put him on ignore as a way to easily keep track of those who drag our Savior's good Name through the gutter in the vilest of ways. What a vile little worm would call my Lord what he did!
Fahgs implicitly know what they do is wrong and there is nothing worse or more despicable. All the people rushing to their defense should take note.
I think your right. You got me to thinking Tyrone....
The reasons are that I believe you are right.... 1. They are constantly defending "them" as closet homos...... 2. They get highly offended at the mere posting of a christian sermon title. 3. They have an extremely strong need to force society to accept their perversions in order to assuage their subconscious shame. 4. They lash out at and demonize those who won't accept their sodomy as normal behavior. For example, they go to the extremes of going to every event with little children and dressing and acting like some stage show that probably goes on in their bars. Who was it that was complimenting the Drag Queen from Rockey Picture Show on my last sermon thread? 5. They get hyper sensitive and break down when alone. When backed by fellow homos they throw tantrums and insults until they get the "courage" to burn down churches and neighborhoods..... Exhibit BLM . Established, promoted and carried out by homos.
That was just off the top of my head, so there must be plenty more reasons.
Slappy and fellow zealots, you are charlatans totally lacking in honesty. Not one person here has defended or advocated for any aberrant behavior and you know that.
You accuse those that have pointed out your mindless posts and links and have the temerity to say that your vile pastor is a fraud, of perversion.
The Happy Camper has claimed education, training and service that he continuously refuses to illuminate. His followers are too dull to understand that this is a huge indicator of his lack of integrity and substance.
Camper, are you the pastor that you constantly promote or are you just a shill?
The Campfire deserves to know, do not deflect or post links, just post a little bio and try your best to be honest for a change.
I almost got took one time anyway. We let a little league coach babysit the boys so I could go to a job interview. Luckily, there were other kids at his house too because a couple years later he was arrested for abusing his son.
Both of my boys swore to me that nothing happened to them. That MFer is lucky, because he'd be a lot worse off than prison now if he had!
Tyrone: I don't know how old you are (69 for me) but obviously you had the experience as I did of homos, drug addicts, etc. doing their best to recruit you in your youth. I left home and joined the Gulf of Mexico fishing fleet when I was 16 and luckily signed on with a captain who was a decent family man. In port I had all manner of bad people recruiting me which I just said no. We did unknowingly get a man who I now believe was a homo that got infuriated one night at the dock when he came in drunk and I wasn't interested in his overtures. Luckily for me I was a strong kid and able to whip his drunk ass. So, as you implied this behavior is nothing new. But societal acceptance of it is. I have one nephew suspect and I'm positive my wife has 3 out her 4 nephews that are misfits and completely gay. Our kids these days are negotiating a minefield and thankfully my son and 2 daughters got through straight and OK but now I have 3 grand daughters (oldest 9) and twins (boy and girl) on the way. I worry about their future on several fronts and know my time with them is limited. This once solid country based on immense wealth and rule of law is disintegrating at a pace once seen in formerly wealthy countries such as Argentina and South Africa.We have spent our rich inheritance in more ways than just financially. I don't blame you for being ''pissed'' and upset. I am also, but that constant posting of videos and being in a self righteous ranting rage and calling others not so militant really ugly things is evidence of a screw loose hence my suggestion to dig some worms and go fishing and forget about this for awhile.
Hastings, if anybody got between me protecting my kids or your progeny, they'd be instantly classified with the enemy and subject to the same treatment from me.
Hastings, I respect your view on this and understand where you are coming from.
But I'll tell you a little bit about the mental state of people who vocally denounce sexual immorality, especially porn and homosexuality.
We're PISSED!
I got tired of the attempted molestations when I was just a child. I got tired of being out in the World as a young man and wondering if I was going to have to stick a switch blade into someone just so I could make it home and not be found dead in some ditch. Right now, I'm plumb wore out trying to keep these same sorts from victimizing my own children, even in places that are supposed to be the safest for them (Yeah, schools, scouts and churches, etc.). It's not just homosexuals trying to ruin my children, it's pornographers and drug pushers too. I hold all of them in the bitterest contempt and if I ever have opportunity to see any of them locked up or otherwise marginalized, I'm going for it.
Amen
We had nothing but a full month of homosexual agenda pushed on our families through the media, and these "conservatives" complain because I posted a video Sunday on the subject of Transvestites? Then this hastings character complains and claims that I have a crazed obsession with them? I posted a sermon and immediately got thrown under the bus by a handful of forum members here. They turned the thread into a dumpster fire, like the one Kyle put out that that felon started before he tried to murder Rittnhouse. Can you help me remember what was that guy convicted of before he joined up with the BLM riot? Anyhow, I'm glad that Hastings thinks I'm unhinged, because he does with Paul the Apostle too. I think he threw out half the New Testament, even the part I just started at lunch. Maybe I should ask him what parts are REALLY the Bible, since it takes an apathetic calm demeanor to discern such things. I sure wish I had an older mentor like these guys to tell us that it's A OK to simply take over american culture institutions and families and keep our mouths shut. (sarc)
Tyrone, the same types that place our families in dangerous positions at neighbors houses, schools, away from the protection of Dads have allies that stand up for them and they make me sick. I don't want to associate with that kind. I turned down a full ride scholarship and a big career be sure of not wanting to be around that type. They seem to come out of the woodwork like termites to eat up any good thing.
Here is a list of countries Crappy Hamper's favorite pastor Steven L. Anderson is banned from entering. How many countries has your pastor been banned from?
Australia Belgium Botswana Canada Czechia* Denmark* Estonia* Finland* France* Germany* Greece* Iceland* Ireland Italy* Jamaica Latvia* Lithuania* Luxembourg* Malta* Malawi Monaco The Netherlands Norway New Zealand Poland* Portugal* Spain* Sweden* South Africa United Kingdom (*Part of the Schengen Area, which has since banned him entirely.)
Ol' campo is going full on crazy "christian" trying to pray his gay away.
That's a typical accusation by homosexuals. Isn't there anything lower you can think of to call him?
It doesn't bother me that a "man" of his character calls me names. I put him on ignore as a way to easily keep track of those who drag our Savior's good Name through the gutter in the vilest of ways. What a vile little worm would call my Lord what he did!
happyC, he didn't call anyone anything except you. You have a very bad habit of conflating yourself with The Lord. I'm starting to wonder if you know the difference.
Ol' campo is going full on crazy "christian" trying to pray his gay away.
That's a typical accusation by homosexuals. Isn't there anything lower you can think of to call him?
It doesn't bother me that a "man" of his character calls me names. I put him on ignore as a way to easily keep track of those who drag our Savior's good Name through the gutter in the vilest of ways. What a vile little worm would call my Lord what he did!
happyC, he didn't call anyone anything except you. You have a very bad habit of conflating yourself with The Lord. I'm starting to wonder if you know the difference.
You want to talk about sin, put that on the list.
Some are ate up with self-congratulatory and self-exculpating projection.
You know exactly what I'm talking about because I pointed it out time and again in threads you've read. There's a list of those I could not care less what they think of me. Miki talks like I owe him the time of day. He thinks I'm going to hand him a resume as if I'm applying to a job. I would never so much as sell someone something that has a mouth like him.
Something you don't get is that Christ is my Lord as He is to the other believers here. They are my brothers. We, YES WE do not think highly of any of you dragging His good name through the mud.
All you guys are good for here is hijacking and misdirecting the topic. Since you don't like it, get lost.
Ol' campo is going full on crazy "christian" trying to pray his gay away.
That's a typical accusation by homosexuals. Isn't there anything lower you can think of to call him?
It doesn't bother me that a "man" of his character calls me names. I put him on ignore as a way to easily keep track of those who drag our Savior's good Name through the gutter in the vilest of ways. What a vile little worm would call my Lord what he did!
happyC, he didn't call anyone anything except you. You have a very bad habit of conflating yourself with The Lord. I'm starting to wonder if you know the difference.
You want to talk about sin, put that on the list.
Some are ate up with self-congratulatory and self-exculpating projection.
AKA a messiah complex. This ain't the first time someone has said something derogatory about slappy and he's come back and accused them of saying bad things about The Lord.
Ol' campo is going full on crazy "christian" trying to pray his gay away.
That's a typical accusation by homosexuals. Isn't there anything lower you can think of to call him?
It doesn't bother me that a "man" of his character calls me names. I put him on ignore as a way to easily keep track of those who drag our Savior's good Name through the gutter in the vilest of ways. What a vile little worm would call my Lord what he did!
happyC, he didn't call anyone anything except you. You have a very bad habit of conflating yourself with The Lord. I'm starting to wonder if you know the difference.
You want to talk about sin, put that on the list.
Some are ate up with self-congratulatory and self-exculpating projection.
That or a messiah complex. This ain't the first time someone has said something derogatory about slappy and he's come back and accused them of saying bad things about The Lord.
Originally Posted by smokepole
Show me wher Sauer said anything derogatory about The Lord.
And don't say "you know what I'm talking about" because I don't, and that's not an answer, it's a dodge and a misdirection.
And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground; 2And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night. 3And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat. 4But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: 5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 7And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. 8Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. 9And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door. 10But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. 11And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.
A. Two angels who appeared as men, new to.the city, went to rescue Lot's family and any other believers. B. Lot was aware of the violent behavior common in the city. Vs. 2,3 C. Word spread quickly of the new visitors. All the men of the city of all ages went to the house of Lot to have their way with them. Vs. 5-8 D. Lot tried to placate them, but they were implacable. By this, they were not content, but wished to fully fulfill their desires. Keep this characteristic in mind. E. They were so prone to violence and implacability that they decided not only to rape the visitors, but also gang rape their old neighbor out of spite that he appealed to some sense of reasonable compromise in their conscious. Vs. 9 G. In spite of them being blinded, they continued to try to rape Lot and his visitors.
Think about that.
Comments from believers?
I have a comment. Lot was a piece of schitt, willing to sacrifice his two teen or possibly preteen virgin daughters in order to gain favor with two travelers who could do him profit.
This man is supposed to be a hero of some kind? What the fugg was he doing in such a place with his baby girls anyway? And if caught there, why in the fugg was he not standing at the door with a sword to protect his children?
It’s people like you who have turned people away from Christianity. Believe my way or it’s wrong is how you think. As a Christian and a god fearing man you disgust me. Your way of thinking is why I will have nothing to do with organized religion. You and your YouTube preacher can stick where the sun don’t shine. Going by your posts that will excite you. 🚀
Thank the Lord that there are men like Antlers on this forum to offset your stupidity.
You may not have had much of a love for Christianity in the first place if a post on this forum has caused you to turn away. I do have a point blank question for you. Is the fact that someone post a video or expresses the idea that the LGBT lifestyle is not tolerated by the Bible something you find offensive?
No one on this site turned me away from organized religion. That happened long before I ever even knew the 24 hour campfire existed.
The bible is a guideline and according to it homosexuality is a sin. Do I think it’s a sin yes and they will be judged when their time comes but not by me and not by you. What I find disturbing is Happy Crappers fixation with the subject which borders on deranged. So I think the guy is honest? Not one bit. In fact you will find most members here think he’s full of crap.
Your last sentence is far from accurate. Just because others don’t rail against HC doesn’t mean “most members here “ think that he’s fulla crap.
Hastings, if anybody got between me protecting my kids or your progeny, they'd be instantly classified with the enemy and subject to the same treatment from me.
I think that most normal men would think likewise Hastings.
Plus, a normal man or woman wouldn't have to have children to feel the same and empathize. The parents of that church also did their best to protect their families from the LA sodomites, yet stay faithful to learning about God's Word. God did protect them all too.
What is so strange to me is why so many do their best to hijack this thread and attack the messengers. Only thing I can think is they really hate the message.
You know exactly what I'm talking about because I pointed it out time and again in threads you've read. There's a list of those I could not care less what they think of me. Miki talks like I owe him the time of day. He thinks I'm going to hand him a resume as if I'm applying to a job. I would never so much as sell someone something that has a mouth like him.
Something you don't get is that Christ is my Lord as He is to the other believers here. They are my brothers. We, YES WE do not think highly of any of you dragging His good name through the mud.
All you guys are good for here is hijacking and misdirecting the topic. Since you don't like it, get lost.
Hey crappy hamper, no one here has denigrated your god but many think you are as phony as kamala's laugh. You owe me nothing but you have chosen to use this site as a platform to proselytize for your demented pastor so the membership deserves to know the bona fides for all the achievements that you have claimed.
Be a man and step up.
Or you can continue in your self appointed messiah role and hope for martyrdom on the alter of the internet.
Crappy Hamper's worried about the children in the LA church while Steven Anderson's sons are harassing the 13 and 14 year old girls in his flock in Tempe. Yeah, it's just the pfags he needs to watch out for.
I'll answer that for others who might have the same question. To understand the first thing to do is to read the Bible. The more the better. It's like one of those close up magnified pictures of an insect or basketball. You can't see what it is or it's environment. You have to step back to get the big picture. It's hard but I'll try to be brief.
*Lot was Abraham's nephew. *Lot became wealthy and blessed in association with his uncle. *The shepherds/hired hands of both ranches that were shared on the land got in conflicts as their flocks/herds multiplied. *Lot and Abe had a meeting to work it out as family. *Abraham gave his nephew first choice as to where he wanted to live and strike out on his own. There was plenty of space. He could have stayed or gone elsewhere, but the city life appealed to him. *He decided to go settle in one of the cities of the well watered flood plains of Mamre. *Sodom was a major city he went to. *Even though he went there, he was a saved man...a believer in the True God Almighty and that Messiah who would someday come to the world. This gave him some protection, especially the hereafter would be heaven. However, he was not perfect and made a very unwise move. *His righteous soul was vexed daily by the wicked sodomites even though he did not participate in their lifestyle. *Abraham even saved his family's lives in a famous description of heroism and one of the greatest wars in recorded history. *Abraham despised the king of that city nation, but they were spared slaughter. *Eventually God was fed up with Sodom and the other heathen cities. * As a favor to his man of faith, Abraham, Jesus and two Angles visited him to tell him what He was about to do. *Abraham asked a favor to spare his nephew's family and any "righteous" believers. *In mercy He agreed. * To understand the Chapter, you must understand that the Bible records everything accurately. No bench rest rifle shoots groups more accurately than the Word of God. That in mind, it records the feeds, good and bad for reasons sometimes a mystery. The key to unlocking the mystery of Genesis 19 is that there are no good guys......other than the angels that went ahead sent by Jesus. Lot was a backslidden, out of fellowship with God, believer.
Cliff hanger...... I have to go for now, but will wrap up the answer to this mystery when I return.
Tell us how we SHOULD give up our daughters to the sodomites and rapists, as long as we keep the little boys safe.
Give up nothing to the devil inspired people. Lot wasn't ever known to take the high road, that's why he "pitched his tent toward Sodom". He chose the green plains of that area out of greed and in doing so put his family smack dab in the middle of an awful place. He likely got accustomed to all the bad so much that it was hard to tell the difference. So we never give up our children to anyone. Jesus said himself if anyone harms these little ones it would be better for them to have a mill stone tied around their neck and drowned. There's our example, not Lot. Lot is an example of how NOT to live our lives.
Shooter I know you didn't ask me this question but I felt compelled to speak up. My wife and I have grandkids at the age where they need defending and this is something for me that is always top priority.
What, no defence of Lot's actions?Tell us how we SHOULD give up our daughters to the sodomites and rapists, as long as we keep the little boys safe.
Idaho Shooter: I've wondered about that passage also. Something must have been lost/added in the translation. When something doesn't make sense you usually don't have the full story. It is obvious though that Sodom was not always the place it degenerated into and it is also obvious that Lot was an official (maybe the mayor) as would be one who was ''sitting in the gate''. There is another instance where I believe the translation suffers. That is where Rahab is called a prostitute. I believe most likely she was an innkeeper. There are others that seem mistranslated or added in but all in all the bible, especially the old testament is a pretty good combination history and guide book.
So lot offered his Virgin daughters up to the raped to save the two angels who If they were angels should have had powers to protect them selves? Why isn’t he as bad as the sodomites? Offer up your daughter? Offer to sacrifice your children etc…. Old Testament is fugged up stuff….
Well they were just girls. You know, chattel to be traded off to the highest bidder. What better price might he be offered in trade for two virgin daughters than his life and the lives of two rich business associates or priests or whatever they might have been in the myth.
What we do know as historic FACT. Around 3700 years ago a meteor exploded in the sky along the North side of the Dead Sea, similar to the Tanguska Event.
And today, archeologists are excavating what they are sure is Sodom from a pit in Jordan.
Quote
Samples from the site show that an extremely hot, explosive event leveled an area of almost 200 square miles including the Middle Ghor - a circular plain to the north of the Dead Sea.
Download PDF (zip file) 2013 Chelyabinsk meteor eventThis image of a vapor trail was captured about 125 miles (200 kilometers) from the February 2013 Chelyabinsk meteor event, about one minute after the house-sized asteroid entered Earth’s atmosphere. Credit: By NASA, Alex Alishevskikh
Each year, millions of pebble-sized meteors strike Earth’s atmosphere and burn up harmlessly.
But once a century, a house-sized meteor makes contact—and explodes in the air with devastating results.
In 2013, one such airburst occurred in Russia.
The Chelyabinsk meteor broke apart miles above the surface, with 30 times the force of the Hiroshima atomic bomb.
It blew out a million windows over 200 square miles and injured 1,600 people.
In 1908, near the remote Russia-Mongolia border, a larger airburst occurred.
Scientists who arrived on the scene found it had flattened 80 million trees over 800 square miles.
Events like this happen every millennium, and in 1700 BC, there was an even bigger one.
North of the Dead Sea, in what is now Jordan, 50,000 people were vaporized in an instant.
A flash of extreme heat, over 7200 degrees Fahrenheit, disintegrated houses, melted sand and stone, and turned pottery to glass.
A tidal wave of boiling saltwater swept inland, poisoning the soil. The area, which had been continuously inhabited for 2,500 years before that, lay desolate for 600 years after.
Since the Chelyabinsk meteor in 2013, NASA initiated a program to identify and track objects within 5 million miles of Earth that could enter our atmosphere and cause an airburst.
Background: Airbursts
Synopsis: Tons of pebble-sized and smaller meteors disintegrate in Earth’s atmosphere every day, while much-rarer huge asteroid impacts that may liquefy Earth’s surface and change the trajectory of life strike every few million years. But what happens when mid-sized objects smash into the planet? In 2013 and 1908, we witnessed dramatic airbursts over southern Russia, and researchers have found evidence of a similar event that wiped out thriving Middle Eastern communities 3,700 years ago.
When huge asteroids slam into Earth, they create huge impact craters and may cause global extinctions, as we have described in previous EarthDate episodes about the dinosaur-killing Chicxulub impact crater near Mexico’s Yucatan Peninsula. On the other end of the spectrum, we rarely notice the sand-grain- to boulder-sized space objects that pummel Earth every day, burning up in the atmosphere. But what happens to space objects that are in between these two end members? Here are some important definitions of these objects: Comets are large icy objects in space. Asteroids are large rocky or metallic objects in space. Meteoroids are small objects in space that may be icy, rocky or metallic, but that range from sand-sized to boulder-sized—up to 3 ft (1 m) wide. Meteors are space objects that have contacted Earth’s atmosphere and are beginning to incinerate, creating a visible vapor trail. Sometimes these are referred to as shooting stars, but if they are exceptionally bright they are called bolides or fireballs. Airbursts are violent explosions that occur when mid-sized meteors streak through the atmosphere, disaggregating as they begin to burn up. If a space object makes it through the atmosphere and hits Earth, it probably started as an asteroid, but once it hits the surface it is called a meteorite.
On February 15, 2013, a dramatic airburst occurred just north of Russia’s border with Kazakhstan near the town of Chelyabinsk, providing an unprecedented view of what happens when mid-sized asteroids streak through our atmosphere. Many buildings and Russian cars are equipped with video cameras that captured the event from a variety of perspectives, enabling scientists to reconstruct the meteor’s violent entry into Earth’s atmosphere. Here is their interpretation: A stony asteroid about the size of a house or small building (55-65 ft or 17-20 m diameter), weighing about 10,000 tons, entered the atmosphere at a velocity of 40,000 mph (64,400 km/h) and broke apart 12-15 mi (19-24 km) above ground, generating a shock wave that was the equivalent of a 470-kiloton TNT explosion—30-40 times stronger than the Hiroshima bomb. It triggered seismometers as far away as Antarctica, and dust stayed in the atmosphere for months. The airburst blew out more than a million windows over a 200-mi² (500-km²) area and injured 1,600 people. Miraculously, no one died. Fallen trees at Tunguska, 1927. Credit: By CYD [Public domain]Fallen trees at Tunguska, 1927. Credit: By CYD [Public domain] Within three days, meteorites were found, one as large as a desk. These objects are still under study, providing clues about the origins of our solar system. Scientists estimate that objects of this size probably impact Earth every 10 to 100 years. On June 30, 1908, an airburst event is believed to have occurred farther east near the town of Tunguska, north of Russia’s border with Mongolia. Although it took scientific parties until 1920 to make the trek to the extremely remote area in the Irkutsk region to investigate, the evidence of the airburst was obvious: It blew down more than 80 million trees in a radial pattern over 830 mi² (2,150 km²). It is thought to have killed at least three people, but no impact crater or meteorite has yet been located. Researchers think that this airburst occurred 6-9 mi (10-15 km) above Earth’s surface as a 160- to 260-ft- (50- to 80-m)-wide stony body exploded with a shock wave that would have registered 5.0 on the Richter earthquake magnitude scale. It was a 10- to 30-megaton explosion, 500 to 2,000 times stronger than the Hiroshima bomb, and possibly the equivalent of an airborne Mount St. Helens explosion. Scientists estimate that these types of events occur on average once every millennium. In 2018, scientists found evidence of a similar event that occurred 3,700 years ago—around 1700 BC—in the land of Middle Ghor in the Middle East, north of the Dead Sea. The region is now in Jordan, and 13 years of archaeological finds in five large sites demonstrate that it was continuously inhabited for more than 2,500 years until a sudden calamity brought an end to civilization in the area. About 120 prosperous settlements occupied by 40,000-65,000 people in an area more than 200 mi² (500 km²) in diameter suddenly were abandoned, marked by evidence of extreme heat and wind. Radiocarbon dating indicates that 3,700 years ago, the adobe-type mud-brick walls of all aboveground structures disappeared suddenly, leaving only the stone foundations. At the center of the presumed airburst was the town of Tall el-Hammam, where 3,700-year-old pottery was found to be quite unusual. The exposed surfaces had turned to glass, or vitrified. Zircon crystals within the pottery had been turned into a gas—requiring a temperature above 7230oF (4000oC). However, parts of the same vessels that were buried in the ground were unaffected, indicating the incredibly intense heat was incredibly brief, possibly lasting for just 1 second. High winds distributed tiny spherical grains of melted rock, some of which stuck to the ancient vitrified pottery surfaces as they cooled. The shock wave from the event covered the eastern part of the fertile farming region with boiling tidal waves of salt- and sulfur-rich brines that were swept ashore from the Dead Sea. It took 600 years for the soil to recover enough for civilization to reestablish farming in the area of the poisoned land. No impact craters or meteorites have been found in the area. The searing heat may reflect an explosion that occurred much closer to the ground than the more recent Russian airbursts. On the day the Chelyabinsk airburst occurred in 2013, a UN committee on Near Earth Objects (NEOs) was meeting in Vienna, Austria, to finalize a recommendation about how to defend Earth from these frightening events. NASA Planetary Defense Officer Lindley Johnson called the Russian airburst a “cosmic wakeup call.”
And from that natural disaster sprang forth yet another Myth of Genesis.
Tell us how we SHOULD give up our daughters to the sodomites and rapists, as long as we keep the little boys safe.
Give up nothing to the devil inspired people. Lot wasn't ever known to take the high road, that's why he "pitched his tent toward Sodom". He chose the green plains of that area out of greed and in doing so put his family smack dab in the middle of an awful place. He likely got accustomed to all the bad so much that it was hard to tell the difference. So we never give up our children to anyone. Jesus said himself if anyone harms these little ones it would be better for them to have a mill stone tied around their neck and drowned. There's our example, not Lot. Lot is an example of how NOT to live our lives.
Shooter I know you didn't ask me this question but I felt compelled to speak up. My wife and I have grandkids at the age where they need defending and this is something for me that is always top priority.
Good summary Jim. One reason of many that we know the KJB is God's Word is that nobody would write this material as an auto biography of their life. The Lord reveals the good, bad and the ugliest things about mankind. This scene in history is so foreign to how a script, story, myth or allegory would be written is apparent by the outrage. There would have been a hero and even a tragedy would not have been written in this manner. This has no hero, only judgement. God's judgement which gives a literal picture of the second death.
As we know, this was repeated as a warning throughout the Bible all the way till now.
Thank God for the grace He offers. This just came to mind. " "What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, " Romans 4:1-8
So lot offered his Virgin daughters up to be raped to save the two angels who If they were angels should have had powers to protect themselves? Why isn’t he as bad as the sodomites? Offer up your daughter? Offer to sacrifice your children etc…. Old Testament is fugged up stuff….
Several elements in this part of the story, including the offer of two women as objects of rape in the place of the male objects, are very similar to elements of the story of a Levite and his concubine in Judges 19.
This is one of the most messed up stories from the Old Testament.
The concubine of a Levite left her husband. After her husband finds her, the house they are staying in is threatened by a group of Benjaminite men who want to have sex with the Levite. Their host offers his own daughter and the concubine in the Levite’s place, which is rejected by the Benjaminites; the concubine is then thrown outside to them and they rape her to death.
The Levite then cuts the body of his concubine into twelve pieces and sends them throughout the land of Israel. As a result, the Israelites collectively listen to the Levite’s story and attack the Benjaminites, slaughtering men, women, and children. Eleven tribes of Israel had all but wiped out the tribe of Benjamin, except for 600 men.
Then they decided that they needed to find wives for those 600 men since all the other people in the tribe of Benjamin were dead. But they had taken an oath not to give their own daughters in marriage to a Benjaminite, so they found the one city in Israel that had not joined in the slaughter. Then they slaughtered all of the men, women, and children of that city except for 400 virgins. They brought back those 400 virgins and gave them to the remaining men of the tribe of Benjamin.
Then they encouraged the remaining 200 men to simply kidnap 200 virgins who were dancing at a tabernacle festival, a female only event; these were young women from all over the country and from every tribe of Israel. And they did.
In Corinthians Paul reminds those Christian believers that some of them “HAD BEEN” homosexual.
That certainly doesn’t go along with the religious zealots message. Neither does this message stand up to the test or the Beattitude blessed are the merciful.
Fundamentalistic Christianity is NOT Christianity. It is about as Christian as Pharisee-ism was consistent with proper Temple worship. The parallels go on and on.
Have any of you fine folks interrupted a door to door salesman just as he thinks he has finalized a lucrative sale of an inferior product at an exorbitant price to your aged parents or grandparents.
My oh my, the salesman becomes first extremely defensive and then morphs into rage.
Why does reading HC threads remind me of that salesman?
Have any of you fine folks interrupted a door to door salesman just as he thinks he has finalized a lucrative sale of an inferior product at an exorbitant price to your aged parents or grandparents.
My oh my, the salesman becomes first extremely defensive and then morphs into rage.
Why does reading HC threads remind me of that salesman?
I'm reminded of Luke 18:11 ''God, I thank you I am not like other people---- robbers, evil doers, adulterers----or even like this tax collector
Have any of you fine folks interrupted a door to door salesman just as he thinks he has finalized a lucrative sale of an inferior product at an exorbitant price to your aged parents or grandparents.
My oh my, the salesman becomes first extremely defensive and then morphs into rage.
Why does reading HC threads remind me of that salesman?
I'm reminded of Luke 18:11 ''God, I thank you I am not like other people---- robbers, evil doers, adulterers----or even like this tax collector
Yup, I've seen that carried out by the crowd defending queers gutting out a good church. They stand for the arsonists and sodomites at the door. I think a few here would be putting down those angels as being judgemental. Someone here thinks that there's nothing more than a mythology here of a judgemental God. The other thinks that God couldn't preserve the manuscripts. Was the part of the New Testament that gives us the reminder of judgement on Sodom as an example, was that pharaseeism?
Perhaps the former pharisee Paul the Apostle, was this a false gospel of the Pharisees?
Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
[
This has no hero, only judgement. God's judgement which gives a literal picture of the second death.
As we know, this was repeated as a warning throughout the Bible all the way till now.
Thank God for the grace He offers. This just came to mind. " "What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, " Romans 4:1-8
Based on the bit of this thread that I’ve read, you may want to consider that the objection that most have expressed is less about the message and much more about the messenger.
Based on the bit of this thread that I’ve read, you may want to consider that the objection that most have expressed is less about the message and much more about the messenger.
You come across like Saul more so than Paul.
Spot on, though the narcissistic, pompous, dunce won't heed your advice. He simply misdirects everyone's criticism of him personally, and his discredited Pastor Steven Anderson as an attack on all Christians, all Pastors, the Bible, etc.
Someone here thinks that there's nothing more than a mythology here of a judgemental God. The other thinks that God couldn't preserve the manuscripts.
It would be accurate to state that some among us know (as certain sure as you KNOW God to exist) some of us KNOW that religions evolved as a means for primitive peoples to explain the natural world around them.
And we know that certain members of the tribes took advantage of those early superstitions and used them to control the people of the tribe. They used those superstitions to extort monies, food, and virgin girls from the tribe.
Those certain members became a Priesthood, those extortions evolved into tithes, and offering plates. The virgin girls became Nuns.
God was invented by Man, not the other way round. The Bible was written by the Jewish and then the Catholic Priesthood to keep the peasants under control and the Priests fat, happy, and well laid. Then it was edited by emperors for political expediency.
The difference between myself and HC are many.
For 1, I can not profit if another chooses to believe as I. I am not passing any offering plates.
For 2, I am not trying to be recognized as anyone's leader.
For 3, There are 10s of thousands of extant and extinct religions over the history of this world, And I recognize any one of them has as much chance of being correct as I.
Recognize that society's definition of God continues to evolve to suit the needs of that society. Thus the evolution of God from OT to NT. The vengeful God of fear and retribution had no place among a world controlled by centralized governments with their sword wielding minions.
Conservative Christian preachers can continue to scream from the pulpit, crying for the God of the early 18'th Century. Society continues to move on and your audience is becoming extinct.
God will continue to evolve to serve the needs of 21'st and 22'nd Century Ministries.
More Americans than ever are giving up on, or backing away from, religion. They disconnect from religion, they disconnect from God, because they just don’t feel like they need it. And it’s not because they've found atheism so appealing, it’s because they’ve found religion so unappealing. It’s not because they’ve investigated the teachings around atheism as much as they’ve just disconnected from something they don’t feel like they need anymore, that doesn’t even seem real to them anymore. Religion just doesn’t hold the attraction that it used to hold.
Growing up many were told that religion has the answers and God has the answers and church has the answers. Nowadays more and more Americans are saying the opposite is true: not only does religion not offer us any answers, but religion is actually part of, or even ‘the’ problem.
As one looks around the world today, and based upon many of the observations that many of the posters here have opined on about religion, it’s understandable why one would come to that conclusion.
More Americans than ever are giving up on, or backing away from, religion. They disconnect from religion, they disconnect from God, because they just don’t feel like they need it. And it’s not because they've found atheism so appealing, it’s because they’ve found religion so unappealing. It’s not because they’ve investigated the teachings around atheism as much as they’ve just disconnected from something they don’t feel like they need anymore, that doesn’t even seem real to them anymore. Religion just doesn’t hold the attraction that it used to hold.
Growing up many were told that religion has the answers and God has the answers and church has the answers. Nowadays more and more Americans are saying the opposite is true: not only does religion not offer us any answers, but religion is actually part of, or even ‘the’ problem.
As one looks around the world today, and based upon many of the observations that many of the posters here have opined on about religion, it’s understandable why one would come to that conclusion.
The world: An evolving world as it’s always been And ever will be.
More Americans than ever are giving up on, or backing away from, religion. They disconnect from religion, they disconnect from God, because they just don’t feel like they need it. And it’s not because they've found atheism so appealing, it’s because they’ve found religion so unappealing. It’s not because they’ve investigated the teachings around atheism as much as they’ve just disconnected from something they don’t feel like they need anymore, that doesn’t even seem real to them anymore. Religion just doesn’t hold the attraction that it used to hold.
Growing up many were told that religion has the answers and God has the answers and church has the answers. Nowadays more and more Americans are saying the opposite is true: not only does religion not offer us any answers, but religion is actually part of, or even ‘the’ problem.
As one looks around the world today, and based upon many of the observations that many of the posters here have opined on about religion, it’s understandable why one would come to that conclusion.
The world: An evolving world as it’s always been And ever will be.
Him: The same yesterday, today and forever.
Make your choice as to which one you’ll follow.
My, that's very magnanimous of you tootsie, giving us permission to choose.
More Americans than ever are giving up on, or backing away from, religion. They disconnect from religion, they disconnect from God, because they just don’t feel like they need it. And it’s not because they've found atheism so appealing, it’s because they’ve found religion so unappealing. It’s not because they’ve investigated the teachings around atheism as much as they’ve just disconnected from something they don’t feel like they need anymore, that doesn’t even seem real to them anymore. Religion just doesn’t hold the attraction that it used to hold.
Growing up many were told that religion has the answers and God has the answers and church has the answers. Nowadays more and more Americans are saying the opposite is true: not only does religion not offer us any answers, but religion is actually part of, or even ‘the’ problem.
As one looks around the world today, and based upon many of the observations that many of the posters here have opined on about religion, it’s understandable why one would come to that conclusion.
The world: An evolving world as it’s always been And ever will be.
Him: The same yesterday, today and forever.
Make your choice as to which one you’ll follow.
Correct Old Toot. God is and hasn't changed His views about violent mobs of homos that blow up churches, OR THOSE WHO DEFEND THEM. There aren't many that want to publicaly take the Lord's side on this issue here this week. Perhaps there's the 7,000 who haven't bowed their knees to Baal hear at the campfire.
Others might be looking for the big perk the atheists are offering. Maybe there's a prestigious trophy waiting for for atheists' favorite preacher of the year award! 😄 I don't know
I’d say that God is just as concerned about fundamentalist idiots that lead people down the path of hatred and false doctrine as he is about homosexuals.
More Americans than ever are giving up on, or backing away from, religion. They disconnect from religion, they disconnect from God, because they just don’t feel like they need it. And it’s not because they've found atheism so appealing, it’s because they’ve found religion so unappealing. It’s not because they’ve investigated the teachings around atheism as much as they’ve just disconnected from something they don’t feel like they need anymore, that doesn’t even seem real to them anymore. Religion just doesn’t hold the attraction that it used to hold.
Growing up many were told that religion has the answers and God has the answers and church has the answers. Nowadays more and more Americans are saying the opposite is true: not only does religion not offer us any answers, but religion is actually part of, or even ‘the’ problem.
As one looks around the world today, and based upon many of the observations that many of the posters here have opined on about religion, it’s understandable why one would come to that conclusion.
The world: An evolving world as it’s always been And ever will be.
Him: The same yesterday, today and forever.
Make your choice as to which one you’ll follow.
My, that's very magnanimous of you tootsie, giving us permission to choose.
I didn’t “give” you anything.
Follow him or follow the world. There’s no in between.
Ignore is your friend being you’re so easily offended. Try it.
Correct Old Toot. God is and hasn't changed His views about violent mobs of homos that blow up churches, OR THOSE WHO DEFEND THEM. There aren't many that want to publicaly take the Lord's side on this issue here this week. Perhaps there's the 7,000 who haven't bowed their knees to Baal hear at the campfire.
Others might be looking for the big perk the atheists are offering. Maybe there's a prestigious trophy waiting for for atheists' favorite preacher of the year award! 😄
You assume that any and all that disagree with you are atheists. I for one believe in a higher power or a God.
I believe that most who disagree with you simply think you're an ass hole.
I don't know (Probably the most honest statement you've ever made)
I do think that the migration away from the religion of Christianity and the Church in this country...and there’s been an enormous migration away from it...is primarily the Church’s fault. It lies at the feet of the Church. The reason that so many people have disengaged from the Church is often because of the messenger, the vehicle, the media, and the way things are talked about. But at the end of the day, it’s not the fault of the people who left...because they found the religion of Christianity so unengaging and so unappealing and so unscientific and so irrational...it’s the Church’s fault.
When you read the Gospels, when you look at the way that Jesus...the person who is supposed to be at the epicenter of everything that His followers believe and do...when you look at the way that Jesus interacted with people, you discover that people who were nothing like Jesus, liked Jesus. And you discover that He liked them back.
So maybe if the religion of Christianity isn’t compelling, or attractive, if it doesn’t have any adhesiveness...perhaps the Church is pushing and displaying the wrong version. There sure are a lotta deconversion stories, and a lotta people that simply walked away. Not only might it be the wrong version, it might also be inaccurate.
Christ and the religion of Christianity are ‘not’ the same thing.
I do think that the migration away from the religion of Christianity and the Church in this country...and there’s been an enormous migration away from it...is primarily the Church’s fault. It lies at the feet of the Church. The reason that so many people have disengaged from the Church...it’s not because of the central message...it’s often because of the messenger, the vehicle, the media, and the way things are talked about. But at the end of the day, it’s not the fault of the people who left...because they found the religion of Christianity so unengaging and so unappealing and so unscientific and so irrational...it’s the Church’s fault.
When you read the Gospels, when you look at the way that Jesus...the person who is supposed to be at the epicenter of everything that His followers believe and do...when you look at the way that Jesus interacted with people, you discover that people who were nothing like Jesus, liked Jesus. And you discover that He liked them back.
So maybe if the religion of Christianity isn’t compelling, or attractive, if it doesn’t have any adhesiveness...perhaps the Church is pushing and displaying the wrong version. There sure are a lotta deconversion stories, and a lotta people that simply walked away. Not only might it be the wrong version, it might also be inaccurate.
Christ and the religion of Christianity are ‘not’ the same thing.
A somewhat alternate view is that the “Churches” migrated away from their members and became anchorless ships without rudders or compasses.
Changing Churches for a changing world. Lukewarm pablum which so many past members just simply spewed out of their mouths and walked away.
Bland or insipid intellectual fare is an apt description (to me) of dogma and orthodoxy, compared to the first-generation passion of what it meant to simply strive to be a fully devoted follower of Jesus. The first century approach to advancing the gospel modeled by Jesus and His apostles is very different from what we see today. And it’s very different from what we’ve seen after about the first 300 years of Christianity.
Bland or insipid intellectual fare is an apt description (to me) of dogma and orthodoxy, compared to the first-generation passion of what it meant to simply strive to be a fully devoted follower of Jesus. The first century approach to advancing the gospel modeled by Jesus and His apostles is very different from what we see today. And it’s very different from what we’ve seen after about the first 300 years of Christianity.
This could well explain the rapid growth of Biblically based Community Churches that are specifically non denominational.
I do think that the migration away from the religion of Christianity and the Church in this country...and there’s been an enormous migration away from it...is primarily the Church’s fault. It lies at the feet of the Church. The reason that so many people have disengaged from the Church is often because of the messenger, the vehicle, the media, and the way things are talked about. But at the end of the day, it’s not the fault of the people who left...because they found the religion of Christianity so unengaging and so unappealing and so unscientific and so irrational...it’s the Church’s fault.
When you read the Gospels, when you look at the way that Jesus...the person who is supposed to be at the epicenter of everything that His followers believe and do...when you look at the way that Jesus interacted with people, you discover that people who were nothing like Jesus, liked Jesus. And you discover that He liked them back.
So maybe if the religion of Christianity isn’t compelling, or attractive, if it doesn’t have any adhesiveness...perhaps the Church is pushing and displaying the wrong version. There sure are a lotta deconversion stories, and a lotta people that simply walked away. Not only might it be the wrong version, it might also be inaccurate.
Christ and the religion of Christianity are ‘not’ the same thing.
Antlers, I suppose this move has much to do with need.
For the last several thousand years mankind has lived a mean and miserable life. The vast majority as slaves or serfs. They lost mothers at childbirth. They lost precious children to childhood disease. They suffered through periodic famine, plagues, scorching heat of summer, and freezing cold of winter.
The hope for eternal salvation and a "heaven" made that life of misery worth the suffering.
By comparison, we of first world nations have achieved heaven on Earth, and people are satisfied to accept that this life is all there is.
Coupled with scientific explanations for all the wonders of nature, fewer people every year find any need for a god in their life.
Correct Old Toot. God is and hasn't changed His views about violent mobs of homos that blow up churches, OR THOSE WHO DEFEND THEM. There aren't many that want to publicaly take the Lord's side on this issue here this week. Perhaps there's the 7,000 who haven't bowed their knees to Baal hear at the campfire.
Others might be looking for the big perk the atheists are offering. Maybe there's a prestigious trophy waiting for for atheists' favorite preacher of the year award! 😄
You assume that any and all that disagree with you are atheists. I for one believe in a higher power or a God.
I believe that most who disagree with you simply think you're an ass hole.
I don't know (Probably the most honest statement you've ever made)
Why do you use His name so? That's no way to speak Jesus' holy name.
I’d say that God is just as concerned about fundamentalist idiots that lead people down the path of hatred and false doctrine as he is about homosexuals.
Why couldn't I have thought to write those very words. Short and right on.
I’d say that God is just as concerned about fundamentalist idiots that lead people down the path of hatred and false doctrine as he is about homosexuals.
Why couldn't I have thought to write those very words. Short and right on.
He is concerned with all sinners and their salvations.
Correct Old Toot. God is and hasn't changed His views about violent mobs of homos that blow up churches, OR THOSE WHO DEFEND THEM. There aren't many that want to publicaly take the Lord's side on this issue here this week. Perhaps there's the 7,000 who haven't bowed their knees to Baal hear at the campfire.
Others might be looking for the big perk the atheists are offering. Maybe there's a prestigious trophy waiting for for atheists' favorite preacher of the year award! 😄
You assume that any and all that disagree with you are atheists. I for one believe in a higher power or a God.
I believe that most who disagree with you simply think you're an ass hole.
I don't know (Probably the most honest statement you've ever made)
Why do you use His name so? That's no way to speak Jesus' holy name.
I’d say that God is just as concerned about fundamentalist idiots that lead people down the path of hatred and false doctrine as he is about homosexuals.
Why couldn't I have thought to write those very words. Short and right on.
He is concerned with all sinners and their salvations.
Yes He is.
I put it in my signature and gently remind folks of it from time to time. I prayed for the opportunity to lead the out of the closet homosexual young man that works at the grocery store. I think a lot of them were exposed to molestation by adult homos as a child or teen and it's messed them up. I try to reach them with the gospel like any other person. However, I have had reports from friends, aquaintances, students and family being assaulted by queers who sexual assaults, molested etc. I would gladly train the victims how to defend themselves and break the arms of the wicked who try to violate a young person or family. The innocent need to be taught what to do when some neighbor or dirtbag comes into them. Someone here will likely call me on that statement as being an unloving harsh violent fundamentalist, but so be it. I care less and look forward to opening another school and training decent folks how to defend against violence from sodomites or anyone else.
Correct Old Toot. God is and hasn't changed His views about violent mobs of homos that blow up churches, OR THOSE WHO DEFEND THEM. There aren't many that want to publicaly take the Lord's side on this issue here this week. Perhaps there's the 7,000 who haven't bowed their knees to Baal hear at the campfire.
Others might be looking for the big perk the atheists are offering. Maybe there's a prestigious trophy waiting for for atheists' favorite preacher of the year award! 😄
You assume that any and all that disagree with you are atheists. I for one believe in a higher power or a God.
I believe that most who disagree with you simply think you're an ass hole.
I don't know (Probably the most honest statement you've ever made)
Why do you use His name so? That's no way to speak Jesus' holy name.
Why don’t you use your real name here.....Stevie Anderson
That’s a good post. With some thought provoking assertions.
To paraphrase Richard Dawkins, an atheist and evolutionary biologist...On one planet, and maybe only one planet in the whole universe, molecules that would normally combine to make nothing more complex than a piece of rock gathered themselves into different sized pieces of matter of complexity so staggering that they can walk, run, jump, swim, fly, see, hear, and catch and eat other living pieces of matter of complexity; and some are capable of talking, thinking, feeling, reasoning, creating, and loving other pieces of complex matter.
Did they have help from a Creator...?
Most of us wanna be masters of our own destinies. Most of us wanna feel in control of our lives. The notion of autonomy is attractive. It gives our lives order and predictability. But is one’s desire for autonomy a barrier to belief in God...? Is it that some don’t want to believe in God because they don’t want to need Him...?
Before I started working for myself my last 2 jobs were in factories and many of the employees in the production area were women. Many of the leads in these areas were lesbians. Everyone knew it. Most treated them as anyone else. Some were pretty mean towards them. I'm very conservative in my beliefs, what some here might call fundamental. My job required me to deal with those in leadership and every one of these women had a high level of respect for me because of how I treated them. Some even asked what I thought of how they chose to live. Though I never approved of their choice in that area I never condemned them. I thought it was a shame for them to throw away their lives in such a way but every one of them were hard workers and trustful people that never caused trouble for anyone. My point in telling this is that these people have every right to live as they like but I will always draw the line at them feeling like it's okay to present their lifestyle as normal and to influence the young to feel that way.
I’d say that God is just as concerned about fundamentalist idiots that lead people down the path of hatred and false doctrine as he is about homosexuals.
Why couldn't I have thought to write those very words. Short and right on.
He is concerned with all sinners and their salvations.
Yes He is.
I put it in my signature and gently remind folks of it from time to time. I prayed for the opportunity to lead the out of the closet homosexual young man that works at the grocery store. I think a lot of them were exposed to molestation by adult homos as a child or teen and it's messed them up. I try to reach them with the gospel like any other person. However, I have had reports from friends, aquaintances, students and family being assaulted by queers who sexual assaults, molested etc. I would gladly train the victims how to defend themselves and break the arms of the wicked who try to violate a young person or family. The innocent need to be taught what to do when some neighbor or dirtbag comes into them. Someone here will likely call me on that statement as being an unloving harsh violent fundamentalist, but so be it. I care less and look forward to opening another school and training decent folks how to defend against violence from sodomites or anyone else.
Hold up....you are getting "reports" from family and friends about queers assaulting them? Where exactly do you live? I don't know alot about said queers but from what I've seen they ain't generally the most physically intimidating types...
H/C, I had promised myself not to address you directly anymore but just this once I will. Young people need to be told at a very young age that there are bad people in this world that they need to avoid and avoid emulating. They need to be taught that repelling bullies by whatever force necessary is OK. That includes rebuffing homos out to recruit them, and that is sure to happen. If anyone here was never hit upon as a young person by a homo, a drug dealer, or suffered bullying attempts they led a very sheltered life indeed. My youngest daughter attracted the attention of a girl bully in junior high school and much to my wife's dismay I told her to throw that girl down and give her what she was looking for. My wife broke in lamenting how she would be suspended from school. I told my daughter if she got suspended I would take those days off and we would do whatever she wanted to do. The problem was solved the next day without her being suspended. I think the teacher approved. That same daughter ditched a college girl friend that unexpectedly came on to her sexually. I never heard if or how she handled being offered drugs but surely it happened. So yes H/C kids need to be taught to defend themselves and be assured of support when they do it. My daughter in her valedictory speech thanked me for teaching her it was her right to defend and take up for herself.
H/C, I had promised myself not to address you directly anymore but just this once I will. Young people need to be told at a very young age that there are bad people in this world that they need to avoid and avoid emulating. They need to be taught that repelling bullies by whatever force necessary is OK. That includes rebuffing homos out to recruit them, and that is sure to happen. If anyone here was never hit upon as a young person by a homo, a drug dealer, or suffered bullying attempts they led a very sheltered life indeed. My youngest daughter attracted the attention of a girl bully in junior high school and much to my wife's dismay I told her to throw that girl down and give her what she was looking for. My wife broke in lamenting how she would be suspended from school. I told my daughter if she got suspended I would take those days off and we would do whatever she wanted to do. The problem was solved the next day without her being suspended. I think the teacher approved. That same daughter ditched a college girl friend that unexpectedly came on to her sexually. I never heard if or how she handled being offered drugs but surely it happened. So yes H/C kids need to be taught to defend themselves and be assured of support when they do it. My daughter in her valedictory speech thanked me for teaching her it was her right to defend and take up for herself.
Glad to hear that. A good dad who is involved in teaching his daughter wisdom is one of the most valuable gifts he can offer. It sounds like she received much.
I was reflecting on some kids whose Dad's hired me to provide some skills to help in those areas. Most of the time it starts with the Dads' wisdom and words are plenty to stop problems in their path. When it goes further, as I've had reports back, it feels good to know that the young people got out of the situations unharmed.
Bland or insipid intellectual fare is an apt description (to me) of dogma and orthodoxy, compared to the first-generation passion of what it meant to simply strive to be a fully devoted follower of Jesus. The first century approach to advancing the gospel modeled by Jesus and His apostles is very different from what we see today. And it’s very different from what we’ve seen after about the first 300 years of Christianity.
This could well explain the rapid growth of Biblically based Community Churches that are specifically non denominational.
Yep. Can’t blame em’. Kinda like another reformation, so to speak. To heck with bein’ told what you’re ‘supposed’ to believe just because it’s part of some set of principles laid down as being incontrovertibly true by other men in authoritative positions (like Pope’s and Archbishop’s and other ecumenical patriarch‘s and such). Same goes for formal catechisms, creeds, and confessions. I’ll draw my own conclusions in these matters, rather than have em’ dictated to me by someone else.
H/C, I had promised myself not to address you directly anymore but just this once I will. Young people need to be told at a very young age that there are bad people in this world that they need to avoid and avoid emulating. They need to be taught that repelling bullies by whatever force necessary is OK. That includes rebuffing homos out to recruit them, and that is sure to happen. If anyone here was never hit upon as a young person by a homo, a drug dealer, or suffered bullying attempts they led a very sheltered life indeed. My youngest daughter attracted the attention of a girl bully in junior high school and much to my wife's dismay I told her to throw that girl down and give her what she was looking for. My wife broke in lamenting how she would be suspended from school. I told my daughter if she got suspended I would take those days off and we would do whatever she wanted to do. The problem was solved the next day without her being suspended. I think the teacher approved. That same daughter ditched a college girl friend that unexpectedly came on to her sexually. I never heard if or how she handled being offered drugs but surely it happened. So yes H/C kids need to be taught to defend themselves and be assured of support when they do it. My daughter in her valedictory speech thanked me for teaching her it was her right to defend and take up for herself.
Glad to hear that. A good dad who is involved in teaching his daughter wisdom is one of the most valuable gifts he can offer. It sounds like she received much. I was reflecting on some kids whose Dad's hired me to provide some skills to help in those areas. Most of the time it starts with the Dads' wisdom and words are plenty to stop problems in their path. When it goes further, as I've had reports back, it feels good to know that the young people got out of the situations unharmed.
H/C, I had promised myself not to address you directly anymore but just this once I will. Young people need to be told at a very young age that there are bad people in this world that they need to avoid and avoid emulating. They need to be taught that repelling bullies by whatever force necessary is OK. That includes rebuffing homos out to recruit them, and that is sure to happen. If anyone here was never hit upon as a young person by a homo, a drug dealer, or suffered bullying attempts they led a very sheltered life indeed. My youngest daughter attracted the attention of a girl bully in junior high school and much to my wife's dismay I told her to throw that girl down and give her what she was looking for. My wife broke in lamenting how she would be suspended from school. I told my daughter if she got suspended I would take those days off and we would do whatever she wanted to do. The problem was solved the next day without her being suspended. I think the teacher approved. That same daughter ditched a college girl friend that unexpectedly came on to her sexually. I never heard if or how she handled being offered drugs but surely it happened. So yes H/C kids need to be taught to defend themselves and be assured of support when they do it. My daughter in her valedictory speech thanked me for teaching her it was her right to defend and take up for herself.
Glad to hear that. A good dad who is involved in teaching his daughter wisdom is one of the most valuable gifts he can offer. It sounds like she received much. I was reflecting on some kids whose Dad's hired me to provide some skills to help in those areas. Most of the time it starts with the Dads' wisdom and words are plenty to stop problems in their path. When it goes further, as I've had reports back, it feels good to know that the young people got out of the situations unharmed.
BULLSHIT !
🦫
Yeah, I'd say that Crappy presents as a boy raised by a mother with no father to teach him how to be a man. He now struggles with his repressed homosexuality, constantly struggling to act like a man. Tilting at his homo windmill. There's is a reason all the so called holy men (and women) of many different religions have cordoned themselves off from society and retreated to their monastery's, nunneries, abbeys, friary's, cloisters, and other religious communities. What many of them liked to do just wasn't accepted by society. I've personally seen the effeminate ones choosing and being sent off to the priesthood.
Before I started working for myself my last 2 jobs were in factories and many of the employees in the production area were women. Many of the leads in these areas were lesbians. Everyone knew it. Most treated them as anyone else. Some were pretty mean towards them. I'm very conservative in my beliefs, what some here might call fundamental. My job required me to deal with those in leadership and every one of these women had a high level of respect for me because of how I treated them. Some even asked what I thought of how they chose to live. Though I never approved of their choice in that area I never condemned them. I thought it was a shame for them to throw away their lives in such a way but every one of them were hard workers and trustful people that never caused trouble for anyone. My point in telling this is that these people have every right to live as they like but I will always draw the line at them feeling like it's okay to present their lifestyle as normal and to influence the young to feel that way.
It's a good thing you didn't have to work with any lesbians like the beaver and NaVelgayser.
It's a good thing you didn't have to work with any lesbians like the beaver and NaVelgayser.
Every once in a while we get to see how deep the Christianity actually runs.
And how close to the surface the angry door to door salesman is.
We have many examples of real Christians on this board. You will never see them resorting to insults or name calling. Thus they are ALMOST always treated with respect.
Just as at my place of work, where several women are employed. Ladies get treated with utmost respect by all (Yes a couple of them do live with other women). Females who show off their assets and use feminine wiles to avoid labor or gain favors are treated with contempt.
People have a way of quickly determining who is worthy of respect, and who are the pretenders. Some around here read sign well.
HC, do you have a brother who lives in Walla Walla Wa?
Before I started working for myself my last 2 jobs were in factories and many of the employees in the production area were women. Many of the leads in these areas were lesbians. Everyone knew it. Most treated them as anyone else. Some were pretty mean towards them. I'm very conservative in my beliefs, what some here might call fundamental. My job required me to deal with those in leadership and every one of these women had a high level of respect for me because of how I treated them. Some even asked what I thought of how they chose to live. Though I never approved of their choice in that area I never condemned them. I thought it was a shame for them to throw away their lives in such a way but every one of them were hard workers and trustful people that never caused trouble for anyone. My point in telling this is that these people have every right to live as they like but I will always draw the line at them feeling like it's okay to present their lifestyle as normal and to influence the young to feel that way.
There are right ways & wrong ways to lead people to truth. I think you are doing a good job.
But, it can't stop were you did. There are forums where it is more appropriate to get into how wrong they really are, such as the internet. Not that you personally need to go further, but those who are called, should. I think the pulpit is also a fine place to call out behaviors.
I've yet to be convinced that homosexuals exist. "Homosexual" or similar has been used for ages to slur people who have sick ways of getting off and wrongly to slur people who have some element of effeminate behavior. It was commandeered as an identity as the civil rights era evolved in order to legitimize the behaviors.
The best example of effeminate behavior that has been wrong slurred is the speech pattern we find typical. The speech pattern is usually fake, but when genuine is a symptom of hearing impairment, not sexual preference.
It's a good thing you didn't have to work with any lesbians like the beaver and NaVelgayser.
Every once in a while we get to see how deep the Christianity actually runs.
And how close to the surface the angry door to door salesman is.
We have many examples of real Christians on this board. You will never see them resorting to insults or name calling. Thus they are ALMOST always treated with respect.
Just as at my place of work, where several women are employed. Ladies get treated with utmost respect by all (Yes a couple of them do live with other women). Females who show off their assets and use feminine wiles to avoid labor or gain favors are treated with contempt.
People have a way of quickly determining who is worthy of respect, and who are the pretenders. Some around here read sign well.
HC, do you have a brother who lives in Walla Walla Wa?
Now I have a someone who insists on name calling and trolling my threads, where the grace of God and encouragement to BELIEVERS is provided, telling me what to say and not say. You reprobates insult christians constantly and you want us to put tape on our mouths and go away. That's one of the things your crowd has in common with the Antifa / BLM crowd.
Then why do you clean mouthed examples of what christians aught to speak USE MY SAVIOR'S NAME IN THE MOST DISGUSTING BLASPHEMOUS WAY?
YOU TELL THAT OLD FOX THAT I WILL PREACH THE DEATH BURIAL AND RESURRECTION OF MY GOOD SAVIOR EVERY DAY I LOG INTO THIS FORUM. YOU SON'S OF BELIAL CAN TRY TO CENSOR ALL YOU WANT AND I WILL JUST REDOUBLE WHAT I AM COMMANDED TO DO.
You both have done your best to disrupt the sermons and are not welcome to christian fellowship.
Before I started working for myself my last 2 jobs were in factories and many of the employees in the production area were women. Many of the leads in these areas were lesbians. Everyone knew it. Most treated them as anyone else. Some were pretty mean towards them. I'm very conservative in my beliefs, what some here might call fundamental. My job required me to deal with those in leadership and every one of these women had a high level of respect for me because of how I treated them. Some even asked what I thought of how they chose to live. Though I never approved of their choice in that area I never condemned them. I thought it was a shame for them to throw away their lives in such a way but every one of them were hard workers and trustful people that never caused trouble for anyone. My point in telling this is that these people have every right to live as they like but I will always draw the line at them feeling like it's okay to present their lifestyle as normal and to influence the young to feel that way.
There are right ways & wrong ways to lead people to truth. I think you are doing a good job.
But, it can't stop were you did. There are forums where it is more appropriate to get into how wrong they really are, such as the internet. Not that you personally need to go further, but those who are called, should. I think the pulpit is also a fine place to call out behaviors.
I've yet to be convinced that homosexuals exist. "Homosexual" or similar has been used for ages to slur people who have sick ways of getting off and wrongly to slur people who have some element of effeminate behavior. It was commandeered as an identity as the civil rights era evolved in order to legitimize the behaviors.
The best example of effeminate behavior that has been wrong slurred is the speech pattern we find typical. The speech pattern is usually fake, but when genuine is a symptom of hearing impairment, not sexual preference.
There were more to our conversations but I don't feel posting them here is useful or appropriate. I would need their consent and not about to ask.
HC gives us a shotgun blast as reprobates. When he is a apostate from the Catholic church per his own admission being baptized as one and then leaving it.
Now spewing fire and brimstone from the KJV in his wanna be online preacher spiritual leader mode he fantasize,s himself being on here.
You turn you burn buddy.. That,s about it........ #youareforeveracatholic #nothingyoudoorsaycanchangeit #lockedinitforlifeandeternity
Angry door to door salesman.......wonderful description.
You are guilty as well Conrad.
YES I WILL get angry when it is about time christians quit putting up with damned reprobates that try to undermine any remnants of Christianity . If the damned want to stay that way they can. I will not let them get in the way of the kindness that has been offered to others so they don't end up in the same place. You got that?
Before I started working for myself my last 2 jobs were in factories and many of the employees in the production area were women. Many of the leads in these areas were lesbians. Everyone knew it. Most treated them as anyone else. Some were pretty mean towards them. I'm very conservative in my beliefs, what some here might call fundamental. My job required me to deal with those in leadership and every one of these women had a high level of respect for me because of how I treated them. Some even asked what I thought of how they chose to live. Though I never approved of their choice in that area I never condemned them. I thought it was a shame for them to throw away their lives in such a way but every one of them were hard workers and trustful people that never caused trouble for anyone. My point in telling this is that these people have every right to live as they like but I will always draw the line at them feeling like it's okay to present their lifestyle as normal and to influence the young to feel that way.
There are right ways & wrong ways to lead people to truth. I think you are doing a good job.
But, it can't stop were you did. There are forums where it is more appropriate to get into how wrong they really are, such as the internet. Not that you personally need to go further, but those who are called, should. I think the pulpit is also a fine place to call out behaviors.
I've yet to be convinced that homosexuals exist. "Homosexual" or similar has been used for ages to slur people who have sick ways of getting off and wrongly to slur people who have some element of effeminate behavior. It was commandeered as an identity as the civil rights era evolved in order to legitimize the behaviors.
The best example of effeminate behavior that has been wrong slurred is the speech pattern we find typical. The speech pattern is usually fake, but when genuine is a symptom of hearing impairment, not sexual preference.
There were more to our conversations but I don't feel posting them here is useful or appropriate. I would need their consent and not about to ask.
Jim and Tyrone,
On the lighter side..... I've worked with and supervised lesbians and we got along fine in the work environment. One started work first day and first hour of that day behind my back. Someone told her that I was a conservative christian republican. When she approached me for her work details, I greeted her and let her know I was looking forward to working with her. The weirdest thing happened. She introduced herself as "a flaming .....er feminist!" I think she held back the word "lesbian", but I smiled and said OK. Glad to meet you. Shook her hand and asked if that had anything to do with the job? After that she seemed extremely happy working with me. She'd bring up politics and religion pretty often. Even our discussions we both stayed civil and recognized differences. Neither of us changed the other's mind, but I pointed to areas we had in common. It makes me wonder at times why there's a major desire for them to come out of the closet when you run into them at work. This topic sure has been a burr under the saddle for some. I'm waiting for a couple of them to open their closet door. 😄
Quick note on another subject. I should make a correction. The name of the church they burned was First Works Baptist, not Faithful Word like I wrongly put in the first post. The sermon wasn't necessarily the most entertaining, but it was encouraging. I hope you were blessed and I plan to post another tomorrow. If there are topic requests from you two or any other believers, you can send the request to me PM if you prefer.
Apostasy (/əˈpɒstəsi/; Greek: ἀποστασία apostasía, "a defection or revolt") is the formal disaffiliation from, abandonment of, or renunciation of a religion by a person. It can also be defined within the broader context of embracing an opinion that is contrary to one's previous religious beliefs.[1] One who undertakes apostasy is known as an apostate. Undertaking apostasy is called apostatizing (or apostasizing – also spelled apostacizing). The term apostasy is used by sociologists to mean the renunciation and criticism of, or opposition to, a person's former religion, in a technical sense, with no pejorative connotation.
Occasionally, the term is also used metaphorically to refer to the renunciation of a non-religious belief or cause, such as a political party, social movement, or sports team.
Apostasy is generally not a self-definition: few former believers call themselves apostates due to the term's negative connotation.
Many religious groups and some states punish apostates; this may be the official policy of a particular religious group or it may simply be the voluntary action of its members. Such punishments may include shunning, excommunication, verbal abuse, physical violence, or even execution.[2]
You turn You Burn. Simple as that....
Have a nice day " Wannabe Preacher Man" reading and quoting outta the KJV.... Judge not, Yet ye be judged. And right now you are judged by the Catholic church and God as a APOSTATE........ Whether you like it or not.....
Apostasy (/əˈpɒstəsi/; Greek: ἀποστασία apostasía, "a defection or revolt") is the formal disaffiliation from, abandonment of, or renunciation of a religion by a person. It can also be defined within the broader context of embracing an opinion that is contrary to one's previous religious beliefs.[1] One who undertakes apostasy is known as an apostate. Undertaking apostasy is called apostatizing (or apostasizing – also spelled apostacizing). The term apostasy is used by sociologists to mean the renunciation and criticism of, or opposition to, a person's former religion, in a technical sense, with no pejorative connotation.
Occasionally, the term is also used metaphorically to refer to the renunciation of a non-religious belief or cause, such as a political party, social movement, or sports team.
Apostasy is generally not a self-definition: few former believers call themselves apostates due to the term's negative connotation.
Many religious groups and some states punish apostates; this may be the official policy of a particular religious group or it may simply be the voluntary action of its members. Such punishments may include shunning, excommunication, verbal abuse, physical violence, or even execution.[2]
You turn You Burn. Simple as that....
Have a nice day " Wannabe Preacher Man" reading and quoting outta the KJV.... Judge not, Yet ye be judged. And right now you are judged by the Catholic church and God as a APOSTATE........ Whether you like it or not.....
🤗🤗🤗😇😇😇 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Camper is much more informed and holier than any catholic. Just ask him he'll tell ya'.
I've worked with and supervised lesbians and we got along fine in the work environment. One started work first day and first hour of that day behind my back. Someone told her that I was a conservative christian republican. When she approached me for her work details, I greeted her and let her know I was looking forward to working with her. The weirdest thing happened. She introduced herself as "a flaming .....er feminist!" I think she held back the word "lesbian", but I smiled and said OK. Glad to meet you. Shook her hand and asked if that had anything to do with the job? After that she seemed extremely happy working with me. She'd bring up politics and religion pretty often. Even our discussions we both stayed civil and recognized differences. Neither of us changed the other's mind, but I pointed to areas we had in common.
HC
Did you come clean with her and tell her you're a big fan of Steven Anderson?
I'm guessing no. On the one hand, you get along fine with gay women at work (what's the big deal, you ask?), on the other hand you post sermons by a preacher who has said more than once that all gays should be killed.
I've worked with and supervised lesbians and we got along fine in the work environment. One started work first day and first hour of that day behind my back. Someone told her that I was a conservative christian republican. When she approached me for her work details, I greeted her and let her know I was looking forward to working with her. The weirdest thing happened. She introduced herself as "a flaming .....er feminist!" I think she held back the word "lesbian", but I smiled and said OK. Glad to meet you. Shook her hand and asked if that had anything to do with the job? After that she seemed extremely happy working with me. She'd bring up politics and religion pretty often. Even our discussions we both stayed civil and recognized differences. Neither of us changed the other's mind, but I pointed to areas we had in common.
HC
Did you come clean with her and tell her you're a big fan of Steven Anderson?
I'm guessing no. On the one hand, you get along fine with gay women at work (what's the big deal, you ask?), on the other hand you post sermons by a preacher who has said more than once that all gays should be killed.
How do you reconcile those?
Like any hyprocrite does.....
Religon Money Jobs Politics Social issues
They cherry pick to what immediately benefits them 6 days a week. And portray the upright citizens brigade membership on sunday.
Hey I'm new here - going to just give my 2 cents Homo's definitely exist Preaching 'aint going to get anyone anywhere in this all talk no action society Though most Christians are good God fearing people - like every other organized religion - it's a scam The youth of today(say MOST not all of anyone born post 1999) is corrupt [and more importantly useless] walking human filth - misguided product of Hollywood and Silicon Valley Religion won't save anyone so it's probably not even worth an honest mention God is the closest thing that can fix this mess and it comes from individuals coming together from an inner urge not dictation
I've worked with and supervised lesbians and we got along fine in the work environment. One started work first day and first hour of that day behind my back. Someone told her that I was a conservative christian republican. When she approached me for her work details, I greeted her and let her know I was looking forward to working with her. The weirdest thing happened. She introduced herself as "a flaming .....er feminist!" I think she held back the word "lesbian", but I smiled and said OK. Glad to meet you. Shook her hand and asked if that had anything to do with the job? After that she seemed extremely happy working with me. She'd bring up politics and religion pretty often. Even our discussions we both stayed civil and recognized differences. Neither of us changed the other's mind, but I pointed to areas we had in common.
HC
Did you come clean with her and tell her you're a big fan of Steven Anderson?
I'm guessing no. On the one hand, you get along fine with gay women at work (what's the big deal, you ask?), on the other hand you post sermons by a preacher who has said more than once that all gays should be killed.
How do you reconcile those?
Like any hyprocrite does.....
I wouldn't call him a hypocrite. He's just one of those rare individuals who can talk out both sides of his mouth, through his hat, and out his ass at the same time.
Homo's are a minority. Only a small percentage of people are attracted to the same sex. That's a minority. Doesn't mean they deserve any special treatment or anything, but I'd say the same about any other minority too.
Hey I'm new here - going to just give my 2 cents Homo's definitely exist Preaching 'aint going to get anyone anywhere in this all talk no action society Though most Christians are good God fearing people - like every other organized religion - it's a scam The youth of today(say MOST not all of anyone born post 1999) is corrupt [and more importantly useless] walking human filth - misguided product of Hollywood and Silicon Valley Religion won't save anyone so it's probably not even worth an honest mention God is the closest thing that can fix this mess and it comes from individuals coming together from an inner urge not dictation
Preaching isn't in vain if it's done with the urging of the Holy Spirit.
1 Corinthians 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
We are also told not to forsake gathering together. We should encourage each other in the right way. Granted almost all of the big name denominations have taken on traits that should make us all sick it's not helping to stay to yourself either. There are good churches left and sometimes not easy to find.
Hey I'm new here - going to just give my 2 cents Homo's definitely exist Preaching 'aint going to get anyone anywhere in this all talk no action society Though most Christians are good God fearing people - like every other organized religion - it's a scam The youth of today(say MOST not all of anyone born post 1999) is corrupt [and more importantly useless] walking human filth - misguided product of Hollywood and Silicon Valley Religion won't save anyone so it's probably not even worth an honest mention God is the closest thing that can fix this mess and it comes from individuals coming together from an inner urge not dictation
Welcome Winter garden.
You said a couple things that got my attention, so I highlighted them.
As you can see, homos exist at the Campfire in far more numbers than I ever thought. If they aren't, then they certainly go through a LOT of trouble defending even those who attack churches and blow them up. I think the best about someone unless they go out of their way to persuade me otherwise. That means, I have an open door policy with you and others who just posted. Feel free to PM anytime, once you are provided that feature. It'll take a while, but be patient. Watch out for the drunkin trolls who have nothing better to do than attack anything decent....like NV and company.
That said, you mentioned that religion won't save anyone. Did you know that the Bible proves that to be true? The only good thing I can think of that it says about religion is in James...
"Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world."
This is a definition of a good religious practice... If you read the whole first chapter, you'll see that.religion cannot pay for any signs. It cannot save one from hell.
That leaves us in a mess, like you said, and only God can fix it. True.
I'm not sure if new sign ups have access to our signatures that you may find at the bottom of the posts. Can you see mine there? It will have two links after" Man's greatest need..."
It's a good thing you didn't have to work with any lesbians like the beaver and NaVelgayser.
Every once in a while we get to see how deep the Christianity actually runs.
And how close to the surface the angry door to door salesman is.
We have many examples of real Christians on this board. You will never see them resorting to insults or name calling. Thus they are ALMOST always treated with respect.
Just as at my place of work, where several women are employed. Ladies get treated with utmost respect by all (Yes a couple of them do live with other women). Females who show off their assets and use feminine wiles to avoid labor or gain favors are treated with contempt.
People have a way of quickly determining who is worthy of respect, and who are the pretenders. Some around here read sign well.
HC, do you have a brother who lives in Walla Walla Wa?
Now I have a someone who insists on name calling and trolling my threads, where the grace of God and encouragement to BELIEVERS is provided, telling me what to say and not say. You reprobates insult christians constantly and you want us to put tape on our mouths and go away. That's one of the things your crowd has in common with the Antifa / BLM crowd.
Then why do you clean mouthed examples of what christians aught to speak USE MY SAVIOR'S NAME IN THE MOST DISGUSTING BLASPHEMOUS WAY?
YOU TELL THAT OLD FOX THAT I WILL PREACH THE DEATH BURIAL AND RESURRECTION OF MY GOOD SAVIOR EVERY DAY I LOG INTO THIS FORUM. YOU SON'S OF BELIAL CAN TRY TO CENSOR ALL YOU WANT AND I WILL JUST REDOUBLE WHAT I AM COMMANDED TO DO.
You both have done your best to disrupt the sermons and are not welcome to christian fellowship.
Happy Glamper can’t distinguish between his gash bleeding and Christ bleeding on the Cross.
Difference, Christ died, rose again, and hasn’t utter another word capable of being heard by a human ear.
Glamper won’t stfu, because he loves hearing himself talk....and, of course, bleeding out, like a woman.
There's only one thing they have to do to stop being homos - quit screwing their own sex.
That would make them a non-practicing homosexual. As long as you are sexually attracted to men and not women, you are still homosexual, you just aren't doing anything about it.
Hey I'm new here - going to just give my 2 cents Homo's definitely exist
Religion won't save anyone ... God is the closest thing that can fix this
Here's two more cent's that will likely earn interest.
The guys I rebuked use God's name in a way that you're not likely to hear even from today's youth.
God promises that He will judge that. They have a habit of attacking things having to do with Him and decency. Even 10 beavers can't help himself but lie about the Lord. I can point to over half a dozen reasons that Jesus did speak after His resurrection. The reason I mentioned this is that a few of the "guys" above, it's obvious who and who not, hate the fact that I posted this topic. It makes one wonder why a group here want to keep me from exposing the violence within the queer community. Ask yourself if you want to be a part of that mess.
There's only one thing they have to do to stop being homos - quit screwing their own sex.
That would make them a non-practicing homosexual. As long as you are sexually attracted to men and not women, you are still homosexual, you just aren't doing anything about it.
There's only one thing they have to do to stop being homos - quit screwing their own sex.
That would make them a non-practicing homosexual. As long as you are sexually attracted to men and not women, you are still homosexual, you just aren't doing anything about it.
.
Is pastor Stevie okay with that?
What about two old queens just living together?
Oscar Madison and that other dude?
Was that OK?
Beavis and Butthead?
What about that Three's Company triad? Now there was some kinky stuff goin' on there. Dude faking being a homosexual, living with two hot chicks that didn't seem to want him, so who did they want?
Oh, fugg.....I accidentally used a womens bathroom once.
There are also lots of unisex bathrooms in Montana.
Well.....thats it for me I suppose.
Was your first clue the lack of urinals?
I hate it when that happens.
Then again, when the little sign in the handle says "occupied" at the local truck stop, I intentionally use the lady's room. Practical I am. If they complain I can just tell them "OK., I'll go out by the front door and pee in a bush?"
Then again, when the little sign in the handle says "occupied" at the local truck stop, I intentionally use the lady's room. Practical I am. If they complain I can just tell them "OK., I'll go out by the front door and pee in a bush?"
Or you can use the line I did when I mistakenly went into the ladies room once. An older lady got all huffy and said "sir, this is for ladies only!!"
My reply: " So is this but right now I've really got to drain it."
There's only one thing they have to do to stop being homos - quit screwing their own sex.
That would make them a non-practicing homosexual. As long as you are sexually attracted to men and not women, you are still homosexual, you just aren't doing anything about it.
That's another lie they tell you. Nearly, if not all of them are attracted to the opposite sex too. For instance, did you know there are more homosexuals married to the opposite sex than to the same sex? That the vast majority of homosexuals have had sex with the opposite sex? We aren't necessarily talking about healthy people here. The ones who haven't had opposite sex sex are for all practical purposes a bunch of incels - people with severe mental and physical issues.
The LGBT movement is simply a scam to get ridiculous behavior normalized.
[ The LGBT movement is simply a scam to get ridiculous behavior normalized.
That's not what HC said. He said he gets along fine with 'em at work, so what's the big deal?. Just not at church because they're always forming violent mobs and firebombing all over the place.
Hey I'm new here - going to just give my 2 cents Homo's definitely exist Preaching 'aint going to get anyone anywhere in this all talk no action society Though most Christians are good God fearing people - like every other organized religion - it's a scam The youth of today(say MOST not all of anyone born post 1999) is corrupt [and more importantly useless] walking human filth - misguided product of Hollywood and Silicon Valley Religion won't save anyone so it's probably not even worth an honest mention God is the closest thing that can fix this mess and it comes from individuals coming together from an inner urge not dictation
Welcome wintergarden, it is always good to have another critical thinker on this site. Another warrior fighting against those youthful "walking human filth" can't be a bad thing. You and HC can work in tandem to smote those homos, do you own a kukri?
There's only one thing they have to do to stop being homos - quit screwing their own sex.
That would make them a non-practicing homosexual. As long as you are sexually attracted to men and not women, you are still homosexual, you just aren't doing anything about it.
That's another lie they tell you. Nearly, if not all of them are attracted to the opposite sex too. For instance, did you know there are more homosexuals married to the opposite sex than to the same sex? That the vast majority of homosexuals have had sex with the opposite sex? We aren't necessarily talking about healthy people here. The ones who haven't had opposite sex sex are for all practical purposes a bunch of incels - people with severe mental and physical issues.
The LGBT movement is simply a scam to get ridiculous behavior normalized.
A long time ago I would have disagreed. But with work place and conversations with women who have had flaming flamingo "roommates", you learn a lot. I think that the majority are what society calls, Bis or bisexuals. I've had lesbians tell me that they were attracted to men and there's been men who swing both ways, so to speak. Not all but most. Just like child predators....they are homos or bis. I can only guess, but doubt if all of them go after kids, but like other sin, there are degrees and various perversion.
Go back to my exhibit, forgot the number, quoting Genesis 19. This was a populated city. ALL of the men, young and old sought to rape the angels. They were lacking a conscience as well, so they were going to rape the man who they knew was straight, dwelt among them and they wanted to torture to death their "friend" Lot. They had no compunction about that. That's why the filthy reprobates steal, and cheat on business deals with a gay smile on their face. They undermine the decent people at work and social gatherings. .....no morality or conscience. But I digress. The cities of the well watered plain had plenty of women. They got pregnant somehow. I believe that you are correct Tyrone.
I stand against those Queers that destroyed the baptist church building and I stand against this trash. If a handful of limp wristed campfire queens don't like it, then go for a long walk on a short pier. Real Men here at the 24Hr. campfire are into defending their families from this dangerous group.
There's only one thing they have to do to stop being homos - quit screwing their own sex.
That would make them a non-practicing homosexual. As long as you are sexually attracted to men and not women, you are still homosexual, you just aren't doing anything about it.
That's another lie they tell you. Nearly, if not all of them are attracted to the opposite sex too. For instance, did you know there are more homosexuals married to the opposite sex than to the same sex? That the vast majority of homosexuals have had sex with the opposite sex? We aren't necessarily talking about healthy people here. The ones who haven't had opposite sex sex are for all practical purposes a bunch of incels - people with severe mental and physical issues.
The LGBT movement is simply a scam to get ridiculous behavior normalized.
Here's how it works. There are men who attracted exclusively to women. There are men who are attracted exclusively to men. There a men who are attracted to both, biased in one direction or the other.
Men who are attracted exclusively to women cannot fathom being attracted to men, so it makes sense to them that homosexuals exist because nothing else makes sense. Someone must be wired pretty differently to be able to be attracted to men.
Men who are or could be attracted to men but might be more attracted to women see it as a choice, because in them it is indeed a choice. Since people tend to think that others must operate the way they do, they believe everyone feels this attraction and makes this choice, but its simply not so.
I stand against those Queers that destroyed the baptist church building and I stand against this trash. If a handful of limp wristed campfire queens don't like it, then go for a long walk on a short pier. Real Men here at the 24Hr. campfire are into defending their families from this dangerous group.
If I had kids I'd certainly not be bringing them around anything like that. However, you are focused on the symptom of the real problem. Transgender people are a tiny fraction of the population, with no real power or influence of their own. Even if you managed to get rid of them all, the underlying problem is still there. Big Jim was trying to point this out earlier. How is it that tiny minority groups have such power and so much visibility. You are playing whack-a-mole, thinking that you can whack the moles down fast enough to eventually win. You can't, you need to shut down the machine.
I believe that Happy Glamper spends an abi-normal amount of his life devoted to chasing down articles on the web, books by authors with a religious bent towards killing others that live differently, and posting videos of both LGBTQ+ activities, is by his own actions, drawn to this lifestyle, and uses exposing it to others, as an excuse to live vicariously amongst them.
Long way of saying...H. Glamper likes dudes in dresses and makeup.
Then again, when the little sign in the handle says "occupied" at the local truck stop, I intentionally use the lady's room. Practical I am. If they complain I can just tell them "OK., I'll go out by the front door and pee in a bush?"
Or you can use the line I did when I mistakenly went into the ladies room once. An older lady got all huffy and said "sir, this is for ladies only!!"
My reply: " So is this but right now I've really got to drain it."
Quick wit. That's the kind of line I can only think of after.
Here's how it works. There are men who attracted exclusively to women. There are men who are attracted exclusively to men. There a men who are attracted to both, biased in one direction or the other.
Men who are attracted exclusively to women cannot fathom being attracted to men, so it makes sense to them that homosexuals exist because nothing else makes sense. Someone must be wired pretty differently to be able to be attracted to men.
Men who are or could be attracted to men but might be more attracted to women see it as a choice, because in them it is indeed a choice. Since people tend to think that others must operate the way they do, they believe everyone feels this attraction and makes this choice, but its simply not so.
I disagree. Being attracted to the opposite sex is the default. Everyone with a sex drive is attracted to the opposite sex. But at some point, homos get twisted and figure out other ways to get their jollies.
![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/85QyzcPT/FA973781-2-CA3-450-C-8-EE4-46-FB59-D45029.jpg)
![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/Kjd7Jskx/churchfundhookers.png)
![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/kGBVLx22/1-CDEF62-D-4340-4781-8-AA3-93840-BBCD9-CD.jpg)
