You smile?

i agree w/ this. i can too on good days

and to mr moses, the crunchy noises our feet make dont matter as much i dont believe either. lots of the deer ive shot tracking have been on crusty snow. you can often times crunch right up and shoot 'em. they are curious fellas. not to say its that easy and you do have to be ready to shoot and be looking and not be affraid to shoot at a running deer sometimes but certains characteristics of the way they are walking will tell you where you should be lookig for him. the trackers on this forums know what i mean. the classic J hook is on example

What I said earlier still goes. I don't bad mouth anybodys legal way of hunting but to answer this, here is the facts in Texas.
Why can't you hunt the way you want?
If you set foot across that fence you can be arrested on a trespass to hunt charge which can lead to confiscation of your rifle, truck and anything else you got at the time. You are not supposed to even shoot across a fence though that is hard to prove. You can not follow wounded game across a fence w/o written permission of the landower or agent. ( I don't exactly agree with that but there it is anyway. That is the law.)
As I noted before I'd guess at least 80% of private land lays such that a 20 minute walk would put you off the place.

On the limited public land sure you could put up a feeder, some places allow it, (National forests or grass lands) but it most probably wouldn't be there when you got back to it.

BCR

Dang, be careful 'bout sayin' stuff like that 'round here or sure as hell some bait pile watchin' deer farmer will call you a liar.

Seems to me like most of the rude people around here are the Daniel Boone types that want to tell everybody else how to hunt. miles

You can't teach a deer farmer how to hunt. They already know it all and don't want to hear any different.

Two men stand in line at Wal-mart to buy their hunting licenses.

One sits in his stand overlooking his food plot for four hours before he finally shoots a nice buck.

The other laces up his boots and stalks through the woods for four hours before he shoots a nice buck.

The moral?









They both suck because they shop at Wal-mart!!

That sounds like you are describing yourself. Are you a deer farmer? miles

Wishful thinkin' on your part. I know the difference between farming and hunting and never get the two confused.

I think he was talking about the "know-it-all" part... Just saying.

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Ankle biters are always obvious. And pitiful.

Ouch! Good one!

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If I had all the answers, I'd charge a fee to everyone on this site. Since I don't, and never will, I check to see what others are doing and ask questions.

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i agree w/ this. i can too on good days

and to mr moses, the crunchy noises our feet make dont matter as much i dont believe either. lots of the deer ive shot tracking have been on crusty snow. you can often times crunch right up and shoot 'em. they are curious fellas. not to say its that easy and you do have to be ready to shoot and be looking and not be affraid to shoot at a running deer sometimes but certains characteristics of the way they are walking will tell you where you should be lookig for him. the trackers on this forums know what i mean. the classic J hook is on example [/quote]


I can tell skybuster is a Maine deer hunter....

Surprising how many deer hunting myths get blown up if you track a deer....

Ain't it the truth ! But you'll never get it sitting on your a$$ in a shooting house overlooking a food plot.

Can't comment on Maine deer.

Can unequivocally say that after being hunted from October to Feb. every year, the Bucks here give their undivided attention to a noisy approach.

In the situation I mentioned earlier, 90 out of 100 times he will see you first as you poke your head over a ridge or look out into a bottom if he has heard you coming.

This means you have about 3-5 seconds, best case scenario, to find him, raise your rifle and let one go before he heads to the next township.

There is the rare occasion where he feels safe and hidden, if there is enough distance between you and him, say a large drainage. But this is the exception rather than the rule here because most woodland shots in the areas I hunt are less than 40-50 yds. and that's out of most bucks comfort zone IME, especially if they think they've been spotted.

JM

You might be surprised what you can see if you watch deer going about their business without being scared. I watch a lot of deer that I don't shoot and they do some funny things when undisturbed by yokels walking around. miles

+1 JM. I've also noticed that the mule deer we hunt by tracking are 99% of the time watching where they came from anyway. We seldom see them before they see us. I've found that if they don't think you've seen them, and don't make eye contact, they feel like they're still hidden to an extent. This is tracking in sand where you can be ultra quiet if you take your time. The open country whitetails we hunt are much the same, except when they see us they haul azz even if your still 300 yards away.

I also agree with miles......you can learn an awful lot by sitting and watching.

Bino's are a still hunters best tool. It is amazing what can be done with stealth. I've taken bucks unaware in their beds at less than 30 yards several times while still hunting. Rainy/stormy days are a still hunters friend.

If you think I haven't observed deer undisturbed at close range many times you are badly mistaken.

I am just trying to point out that you are probably not the only one. miles

Just remember miles....if it's been done in the deer hunting world, blackheart has already done it, and better than anyone else.

I'm ready for some new scenery and to try hunting differently.

I have gotten bored hunting here. So much so that last year I mostly sat on my azz in stands that had tops and sides on them or stayed at the camp and watched football. I've burned out.

Nothing wrong with stand hunting, I just don't enjoy it much at all.

One day I'm going to go out west and bumble my way around public land with no guide, just me. I probably won't kill anything, but I'll enjoy it. My dad loved it, he went for years and said coming home and hunting just didn't compare.

JM

His legend precedes him, the way lightning precedes thunder

His reputation is expanding, faster then the universe

He is Blackheart, the most interesting man in his world

I would like to see Flinch and Blackheart get into a one-upping contest. The amount of BS we would see would be AMAZING

I used to track and still hunt deer. All the guys that were sitting in the ajacent properties used to thank me for pushing deer past them or cused me for disturbing the natural deer movements. I would see a heck of a lot more orange than brown. I got a lot of excercise but not many deer. Now I sit and shoot them in my clover field or ambush them on scrape and rub lines. My success rate is vastly better and I relax and let mother nature put on one heck of a show. And I've got a front row seat! I don't hunt that way out west but I still get a fair amount of seat time, just a different seat. YMMV

I have taken deer every way it's commonly done except in front of dogs. I wouldn't say I'm the best but I have been quite successful.

Sounds like you need to switch species JM. I bet an elk or bear hunt would get your juices flowing.

Areas differ,conditions differ, and ways to hunt have to differ as well.....if you have 100 acres under lease in the mid west, you can't hunt deer the way a Maine tracker would.....you need room to pull it off,except under the most favorable of circumstances...

Or areas where, like the guy above posted, where you may push deer into other hunters.

So ya gotta sit sometimes..... or maybe really slow down and still hunt, which, if done properly, seems more like a "moving stand"...

This is the conundrum......I always liked whitetail hunting;just hate the way I have to hunt them sometimes.Which is why I frequently go to big forested country,here in NH and Miane when I can, mountainous terrain,to hunt......fewer hunters and large country.I don't see anybody to speak of...

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i agree w/ this. i can too on good days

and to mr moses, the crunchy noises our feet make dont matter as much i dont believe either. lots of the deer ive shot tracking have been on crusty snow. you can often times crunch right up and shoot 'em. they are curious fellas. not to say its that easy and you do have to be ready to shoot and be looking and not be affraid to shoot at a running deer sometimes but certains characteristics of the way they are walking will tell you where you should be lookig for him. the trackers on this forums know what i mean. the classic J hook is on example [/quote]


I can tell skybuster [b]is a Maine deer hunter.... [/b]Surprising how many deer hunting myths get blown up if you track a deer.... [/quote]

not sure how i should take this......

All I can say is come here and crunch around and see what you kill.

It's a helluva lot easier to spot a deer against a white background of snow than in a thicket or bottoms that stay green until mid December.

I've only hunted the snow 3-4 times here, we don't get a lot. I killed bucks twice because I was able to spot them much quicker and much further away.

It certainly gives you an advantage and is a ton of fun.

Best,

JM

LMAO........

I disagree strongly...That implies that one should change their tactics based on local conditions. That's never going to work. If I've learned anything from the internet it's that whatever works well in my local area is clearly what everyone else should be doing too .

Not trying to stir the pot, but most on this forum would consider my entire geographical region (western ky) a huge food plot! We basically have small tracts of timber surrounded by crop fields. If the deer aren't out eating corn/beans, they're in the woods eating acorns, honeysuckle, persimmons, etc.

I live and hunt on my 108 acre farm. We primarily stand hunt. Normally, we have 2-4 in the woods or on the edges during gun season. We don't attempt to still hunt - not enough room for that here. We try to avoid pushing deer from our farm as well.

We enjoy hunting and I plan to pass "our" tradition on to my kids. We've been quite successful in the past too. And yes, we do have 4 small food plots (+-1/4 acre each) scattered around the farm. To us, this IS old school hunting....

All the comments about the fear of "pushing" deer to other hunters or off your property if you still hunt tells me very few hunters actually understand proper still hunting technique. If you're inadvertently pushing deer while still hunting with any regularity, you're doing it wrong. I've watched lots of guys "still hunt" here and most are doing nothing more than taking a slow stroll through the woods. Done properly, you should be seeing the majority of your deer before they see you. If you can accomplish that, you'll have plenty of time to position yourself for a good shot at deer that haven't seen you and are unaware of you presence. You can't hope to do that with any consistency without good bino's and a proper glassing regiment. You'll need your bino's to "penetrate" and "see through" cover and allow you to see what you couldn't possibly see with your naked eye. Each and every step you take should be planned before you move. When you do move, you'll keep to the shadows, avoid going through openings and never stop in a spot that offers nothing to break up your outline. You should be picking apart the terrain piece by piece with a fine toothed comb and you won't proceed until you're 99/100 sure there are no deer within your view from that spot. Of course it goes without saying that you'll also keep the wind in your favor.

are you ALWAYS full of yourself?

Are you always a whiny little asswhole ?

Id almost guarantee a northern still hunter wouldn't do very good down here until they got the hang of things... I both still hunt and sit stands and usually stand hunting is twice as effective, it just isn't my cup of tea

"It is better to know nothing than to know what ain't so." Josh Billings

There are times when stand hunting is more effective and there are times when still hunting is more effective. If you don't know how to do both you are limiting your overall chances for success on any given day.

skybuster,it was meant as a compliment.. ...sorry I did not make that clear.

Tracking deer in Maine and New England is some of the toughest, and most fascinating and fun hunting I have done;and some of the best deer hunters I have met have come from Maine.

I know what you said in your post is true,because I have done it myself....even killed bucks that knew I was following them.So your post rang true with me.

Lots of folks don't believe a guy can walk on a buck he is tracking in cover unless he is completely silent....not true.

I've hunted over many food plots but I've never killed a deer on one. All of mine have been taken in the woods. As long as it's legal I don't care. I just want to fill the freezer.

I've never hunted "food plots" but I have hunted farm land with great success. Anyone who thinks there is no skill in hunting farm land is sadly mistaken. I spend the vast majority of my time hunting deep woods and other private land but none of it is planted or farmed.

If I had an opportunity to "plant" something I would do it but would not hunt it or any parcel exclusively. I also feel that food plots or farm land is a great way to kid kids involved in hunting as they will probably see more game at a minimum.

I don't think Blackheart understands the concept of thickets that you can barely get through, much less quietly, and big timber with pine needles on the ground. What you have to work with should dictate the method. I have killed deer by several methods from running with dogs to jumping them in clearcuts while riding a horse, still hunting and sitting in a stand. Where I currently hunt, the best method is stand hunting and probably would be the most productive in the majority of places people hunt whitetail deer. miles

Believe it or not, we've got those here too. I carry a pruning shear as part of my kit to help get through the thick stuff.

I knew you were used to more open country talking about binoculars for still hunting but pruning shears? When I'm hunting public land I don't leave the truck without a machete and a saw. Pruning shears are about as useful as tits on a boar around here if you need to get off a trail.

The thicker the cover, the more important bino's become for letting you visually penetrate through. As far as the pruning shear, you are only clipping enough to snake through when you have to, not clearing a trail.

Do you have sandy beaches and lush tropical rain forests too?

That's priceless. I'm going to print that out and hang it at the deer camp for everyone to enjoy .

...of course, and he carries his Superman cape in his kit, too.

I do believe that wvhunter is thinking "Mission Accomplished" right now...

We've got thick swamp boosh, sandy beaches and tropical rain forest down here.....

well thank you. its hard to tell the sincere from the sarcasm these days

Obviously you've never been in a 5-10 year old clearcut that's grown up primarily in blackberry brambles and multiflora rose. You dumbasses here never disappoint. You can always be counted on to act like a bunch of grade school children. Especially when it's you who are being shown as the ignorant.

Please be patient with us, oh wise one, alaways.

Are you going into first grade this year little girl ?

Why, is so, would you like to meet me?

Why, is so, huh ? Hmmm, I think your teacher better keep you in kindergarden for another year. Now shut the [bleep] up and go play with your dolls. You have nothing of value to contribute to an adult conversation. As usual.

Still waiting for more Jim Bridger stories and other little gems from you.

im all about the "tred barta" way so to speak but really? slashing though clear cut brush wheile deer hunting? ide go around (and guess what, most of the deer will too) if i wanted to clear brush all day ide join the snowmobile club up here. ive had bucks take me though some gawd awful nasty stuff and some times turn around backwards and push through a few times so to protect my eyes but if i cam to beech and briar infested slash ide opt for an easier way around althoiugh i have found myself in those types of places up north and think to myself "F'n A, now what!" hahaha

Adult conversation? yeah, your "I'm-God's-gift-to-hunting" approach, coupled with your "I've-been-everywhere-and-done-everything" responses, seems to be going over very well with all the adults on this forum.

This thread is AWESOME!

There are adults on this forum ? No way. As for the God's gift to hunting accusation. It absolutely is obvious that most here don't know diddly schitt when it comes to still hunting. I gave some factual pointers on doing it properly and the children here don't like it because they don't like having to face the realization that they really didn't know how at all.

No way skybuster. There ain't any "thick stuff" up here in the Northeast. Just ask all the experts here. As to most of the deer going around clearcuts ? They must be different in Maine than in NY because they absolutely love that stuff here !

hahaha well, when i come into those situations when tracking i do whats called and end o round. if the deer i was tracking diod go through and keep movin ide pick his track up when i circled the cutting. if i dont pick it up, he's still in there. either way... GAME ON and either way i aint gonna dig out my sheers and prune a trail. look man, ive agreed w/ you on some points but i think now maybe you have read too many books. lets see some pics!!!

If they're in there, I'll go in after them. I ain't in a hurry to get through so no need for a machete or bush hog. A pruning shear in your pocket is very little weight and clips off blackberry brambles or small branches conveniently. I'd post some pics if I had the capability but no scanner or digital camera here. I've read books on deer hunting but can't say I've read one that gave a good description of proper still hunting technique. Move slowly, keep your eyes peeled and be prepared to shoot quickly at the assend of jumped and running deer with a fast handling carbine seems to be the norm.

careful your dont cut your finger off w/ your sheers when your shoulder your rifle to shoot at that boundin deer hahaha

Why do you need to shoot quickly? You said earlier that if you still hunt properly you should see the deer before they see you.....



Geez man, armed with a rifle or even a primitive weapon and your pruning shears/gardening tools you should be able to slip right in on these deer

Guys that tell anybody that will listen how great they are as hunters and how everybody else sucks are normally the guys that don't have a clue as to what's going on IMO

ZZZZOOOOM, that obviously went right over your thick head ! I'm not surprised. Reading comprehension seems in short supply around here.

This thread has given me more than a couple chuckles. Thanks for the entertainment guys. Pruning shears...hah.

He's not alone. I'd love to see some of these Dan'l boone trackers come here and give it a go making racket as they move thru an area.

If they don't think making noise within 40 yds of a good buck won't focus his attention on your position and limit your shot opportunities vs. spotting a buck first and him having no idea you are in the neighborhood, well....

Here, limited visibility makes most shots 40 - 50 yds max. I can tell you from experience, if he has heard and is now looking at you at that short a distance, you have a very, very short time frame to locate him and fire a shot...seconds, maybe 3-4.

It is possible to make a little noise in terrain where visibility is much further and he feels safe because of the distance between you and him, even young dinks will occasionally stand there for awhile. You can pull it off in places where deer aren't familiar with man or are so acclimated to him, that they have lost their fear (petting zoo's).

But you ain't gonna do it anywhere I have hunted down here.

If noise doesn't scare them, we should all be able to walk up and just shoot them in the head like you would a pet cow....

LOL

i like how the 'daniel boone' is thrown in there as though to make tracking sound fictional and un-realistic

And I would like to see anybody track and shoot deer through dry oak leaves and thickets that you can't penetrate even on your hands and knees. Not saying that you can't track deer, just that you can't do it every where and at any time. Conditions need to be right and we seldom have them here. That is why most people have found that sitting in a stand is more productive. Let the deer do the moving. miles

conditions NEED to be right??? lmao. ideally yea but that happens about three days of a 6 week season in maine. i track on crunchy snow, loud squeaky sticky snow, powdery snow, and no snow if we get a good rain so ideal conditions my eye! maybe not down south, never been any further then PA and you could track there but i hunt all over maine from southern oxford co to the allagash and from freedom NH to errol and ive been able to track in all the country. un successfully at times but thats not fault of the country side. it just wasnt neat to be on those days. eahc to their own

BTW, these look like dry oak and beech leaves to me

I could see where you could ease through there without making much noise. Here the Oak leaves will be five or six inches thick, hiding dry sticks, I see no thickets and the deer would not be legal, unless there are brow tines that I can't see. That is another peeve of mine. Having to count to three on one side before you shoot. You will lose a lot of good shots and either have to take a marginal shot or not shoot. And there is a rock in the picture. No rocks here unless somebody carried it in. miles

The best deer hunting in the world might be in downtown NYC, but I'd never know as I'd not hunt the frigging place.

I'm all about more enjoyable and when you are doing it the way you enjoy the most all the other pieces take care of themselves.

Noise don't bother me none, scent do.

It's akin to the parents that don't want to make a single sound when the baby is sleeping, one snap and the kid is up. Far worse sins than noise.

well my good sir, some places they can be deep like that, and the sticks underneath are part of it. thats why i like my non insulated lacross grange boots. i can feel them before i put my foot down. sometimes your gonna break a twig or two. big deal. there are brow tines on that little 6er. marginal shots are about as common as house flys up here. somehtin ppl have to cope w/. this buck was bedded down chewin his cud and took one almost head on. the 350 went about the whole length

The problem with our reading comprehension is that it's pretty much impossible to comprehend the BS you've posted on this thread. You are a legend in your own mind. You may be a good hunter but with all of your "one upping" and self promotion on this thread all people focus on are you ridiculous comments

I've been guiding hunts for over 20 years and when you hunt with that many people with many different personalities you get fairly good at figuring out who knows what they're doing and who doesn't. The guys like you that think they know it all and will tend to try and one up everybody else in camp normally go for a VERY LONG walk the first day of the hunt. When you get a guy that won't shut up about how good he his you just make him to tired to talk. Problem solved

Anxiously awaiting Blackhearts response. Will he try to one up it or will he try to teach us something? Regardless, I'm sure we'll get a chuckle out of it

You know Drum, it doesn't matter whether it's hunting, your occupation, sports, or whatever......If you have to talk up your "game", then you ain't got one.

Very true, and all the talking impresses no one but the talker.

I'm sure you are a nice guy Skybuster, but you're laying it on a little thick pard.

If you think you can consistently track deer through dried leaf litter for any meaningful distance, you have never attempted it or you're just pulling our leg.

I've seen dogs lose the scent of a deer because they had hell penetrating the tangle he dove off in.

I'm betting their sense of smell is much better than your eyesight.

I'm not trying to be ugly, but the bullchit is getting deep and reality is not happy about it.

I'd like to get Edward Scissor Hands and The All Seeing Eye together at a real campfire. That would be a hoot.

ROTFLMAO.......

X2!!!! That's freaking hilarious!

You [bleep]' Texans always crack me up. You always think the way you hunt in Texas is the only right way and if you can't accomplish it some other way, nobody else can either. I never once said I was the best hunter since Ishi died. What I did say is that it's obvious many here have little knowledge or experience with still hunting and obviously don't really know how to go about it correctly. That IS A FACT and it won't change because you refuse to listen to, and don't even want to hear from someone who has done it successfully for years. There is much truth to the old saying "you can lead a horse to water but you sure can't make him drink".

Have you two graduated the third grade yet ? Sometimes it's hard to fathom the level of immaturity that comes from supposed grown men here.

Thank God your game department is managing the age structure by the point requirement. Most folks are too damn greedy to do managing and would shoot anything thats legal.

You me and skybuster at a real campfire really would be a hoot.

That should have hurt my feelings, but luckily for me, I had my feelings taken out with my tonsils when I was 5.

Point requirements are fine for stand hunters but not so good for drivers or trackers. Of course the food plot planting, feeder filling, deer farming, trophy hunter types don't give a damn about stepping on others toes so long as they get to shoot big antlered bucks the easiest way possible and as often as possible.

You sound just like another internet "tough guy"......trying to prove to all what he knows by his sharp and vulgar tongue....Let me give you a little advice, you ain't done nothing that hasn't been done before but a lot of hunters a whole lot more skilled than you ever will be....and they dont run around bragging about it.

Ain't braggin' about it. Just trying to tell these guys who say it isn't possible that it is. Other than that, [bleep] off pilgrim, nobody asked you.

Classy reply......

Meaning last week ? Is your throat still sore ?

Your contribution wasn't exactly classy either.

You dont really want to go toe to toe, do you?.....laffin!

It was the truth and it wasn't ugly. Your response was exactly what we all expected, simply ignorant and ugly

Careful Pat! He's packing pruning shears!

Deer are killed every year in central and Northern New England using the methods described by Skybuster...it is pretty common here.

This does not mean it will work in all parts of the country, which is a silly conversation.

Edward.....when do you start giving scenar long range shooting lessons? I'm sure we can all learn from that too.

Why even bother asking? It's like poking a dog turd with a stick....

That would be like Blackheart "teaching" his parents how to screw. Pretty sure that had that down before he showed up.

If my memory is any where close to good, you are the one that came on here not liking the way others hunt. The rest is people calling BS when they hear it. miles

You're grasping at straws now you silly llittle puke. The depths that the scum will sink to around here is really quite astonishing.

It's not so much that I don't like it, I'll still sit a stand sometimes myself, I just think it's sad when they get stuck in the rut of one trick ponies and become so closed minded that they can't do anything else.

Your trash, plain and simple! You just told one of the classiest guys on this website to "[bleep] off pilgrim". Freaking loser!

Perhaps he has an issue with self-esteem?

ya think???

Talk about losers. You retards are too stupid, petty,jealous and self absorbed to even recognise good advice when it's offered. If scenarshooter were such a classy guy he would have stayed out of something that was none of his affair. You dumb [bleep], including scenarshooter and jpro, assume waaaaaaay too much here. For instance, none of you have any idea as to my hunting or shooting prowess/credentials yet you adamantly claim I'm an also ran at either. You are a pitiful bunch of slack jawed, inbred, ankle biting losers period, end of story.

Beautiful pic. Reminds me of those that lay their last in the Big Thicket of east Texas . I've snuck up on more than a few there but you won't do it turning you head much or moving your hands (to shear). Past 50-60 yards a bedded deer will see you coming every time and at that distance he will blend in so well you can only see him if he moves and then when he is still you can't see him again and will question your eyes and fear he is gone forever. So, you won't sneak up on him unawares and may get a shot if he elects to stay "hidden", being unaware that your perception is better than the others that have passed him by before. Most stalking kills are made if the buck is traveling and searching for does and the stalker is moving much slower than the deer and is almost not moving at all as compared to the speed of the buck. Then we come into view of the moving buck with his head blocked by a palmetto frond or his head turned away and move to make the shot with the deer distracted or his vision blocked. Agood or lucky shot let's us proclaim "I stalked up on him". There are no true buck masters-for all practical purposes. (forgive me Jerry Maxey, Benoits, and the few others).

If I"m not mistaken, this is a public forum, therefore anyone can post anywhere about anything they want to. Talk about dumb...that you couldn't undersatnd that. I also don't consider you an also ran simply because I know nothing about you other than my judgement of your character from your posts here, most of which are pathetic. I'd consider you a "never was" before "also ran" if I had to wager a bet. I also consider it a huge compliment when people like you don't like people like me, so a big thank you from Texas for that.

U.D.

And yes Blackheart, for all iknow, maybe you too. Can you take a bow or 30-30 and drill a deer running through the forest of timber, cut a flying gooses neck with a 22, or head shoot a limbing out or airborne squirrel with a 22 or 30-30, or a wood duck whipping through the woods following a creek?

I have a pretty good idea of your hunting and shooting prowness/credentials.
ZERO

But by all means continue to impress us.

. So you're trying to tell me you "snuck in" on these magnificently wary and intelligent East Texas deer with your whole body, which damned sure musta been "movin'" to "sneak up" but clipping a couple branches to avoid making noise woulda spooked 'em ? BWAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAA, WHAT A [bleep]' MORON ! Go peddle your bullschitt elsewhere Bubba. I've gotta real nice 8 point with a shattered skull cap here that I plugged in the back of the head from 15 yards after "sneaking up" on him in his bed and clipping offending branches as I went. Oh yeah and use your bino's like you should and look for parts of deer {eyes, ears, noses} instead of whole deer and you'll do much better spotting those bedded bucks.

Yeah and I've gotta pretty good handle on yours after you posted pics of those piddly a$$ little 2.5 and possibly 3.5 year old bucks and claimed they were 4.5 and 5.5 year olds too. Liein' [bleep]' wannabe ! How many state championship medals you got from NRA registered rifle matches you sorry asss bitch ? I've got three myself.

You first

Is that supposed to hurt my feelings? The only thing I see you posting is your lips flapping in the wind.

Same here lil' black sambo ! Got any more pics of 110" 140 lb. 5.5 yr. olds you can post ? Bwaaahaaahaahaaahaaa. [bleep]' wannabee !

I've shot flyin' birds and runnin' rabbits with a .22 many a time my little chicadee. No bullschitt whatsoever. I've shot flying barnswallows out of the air with a BB gun too and more than once.

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Ok I raise the flag

I once shot a can off of the top of a fence post at about 25 yards with a 22. One of the proudest moments of my life. I would trade everything I have done since to do that again.

He's the most deadly man in the world.......stay bloodthirsty my friend......laffin!

Yeah, I raised the BS flag on you when you posted those supposed 5.5 yr. old deer pics you lil' wannabe prick. Go peddle yer BS to somebody that'll buy it !

I must really SUCK as I miss Woodies often with a shotgun!

Blackheart and My good buddy Bob,

I never said that you can't still hunt bucks or track them. I've have done it plenty when conditions were right and tried a bunch when they weren't so right..

I simply stated that the close proximity in which they are encountered here does not afford you the luxury of being noisy, as he will peg you and move out before you can do much good.

Making a successful stalk on a whitetail in a low visibility, confined environment almost always depends on you seeing him first and IMO, one of the most challenging hunts you can engage in with any animal.

Tracking is certainly possible in the right conditions. I have just never met a man that could track a relaxed, walking buck on dry ground for any meaningful distance. The only thing tougher is trying to track one thru knee deep water.

When I hunted areas that were so thick that visibility was really poor, I grabbed a shotgun and just waded thru. They were usually bedding areas I would hit. I don't consider this still hunting, it's more like jump shooting, but it can work as well.

Once again, you first

There's no question that you suck. Never was.

I have deer hunted in Louisiana south of I-10 anyone that even wants to try stalking a deer around the parts I have hunted is a better man then me. Some of the thickest nasties stuff I have ever hunted.

Man, BH. Is this fun for you? If so, you ae a true total dickhead.
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He invented sliced bread. You didn't know?

I hunt the way I want to hunt, in the areas I want to hunt, and I kill the bucks I want to kill.

I could care less if some guy gets the same satisfaction killing a buck using a different method I do.

You better ok that with BH first!

I'll be honest and I fizzled out on page 2..

You didn't miss much.

Well duh! Your not packing pruning shears!

There are several guys on this thread that basically hunt for a living and I ain't one of 'em.

Scenar, HuntSonora, JGRaider, BobnNH, Calvin and a few more on here have all offered up photographic evidence of what they do each season.

Blackheart, you sound like you are an experienced hunter (except the pruning shear deal), but to say these guys don't know what they are doing is b.s. and I think you realize that.

JM

Was I suppose to? Why didn't anyone tell me?

Calvin the only thing you missed is BH can kill a Moose with a BB gun from 1000yards.

As a matter of fact I am having a pretty good time. You girls might be able to BS each other but you can't BS me.

We've got guides around here too. They're pretty much the same as any other whores. Selling their worn out wares to desperate pricks that can't get off on their own.

JM I wasn't refering to you or anything you said....just making an observation....

I leave dry leaf tracking to others...way over my head.I am not very good at that...

OTOH I came across a guy up near Rumney NH who had killed a good 8 point on the big beech ridges near the top of the mountain that morning(White Mountains of New Hampshire).The leaves had a hard frost that morning,and he said the disturbance in the leaves as the buck walked along was easy to see...this was not a long tracking job....300-400 yards maybe from what he said.

This guy lived there,had been doing this sort of thing for years.


On the noise issue, it is hard not to make some noise in those conditions....even the deer do it which we know because we can hear them coming sometimes.It is the cadence of the noise more than anything else....deer don't walk like men...unless the man slows down...uses a broken cadence instead of a steady stroll.

But even then, not all deer panic and run at the approach of a human....here,and mostly up north...they might stand back in screening cover,and watch to determine hostile intent....sometimes a stealthy approach (behaving like a predator)spooks them more than the hunter just cruising along....the reason Lanny Benoit says that he simply strolled up to many of the bucks he has tracked,and killed them.

I planned to hunt a small clear cut right at dusk,but instead of "poking",I strolled through,along the dirt trail,fairly quickly but quietly,head moving side to side...I caught a 6 point staring it me....without stopping I rolled off the safety mounted the rifle and killed him at 20 yards.So it goes..


This is hard to grasp for folks from the south, or more crowded hunting conditions in the East,accustomed to nocturnal deer,crop lands, and heavy thick southern swamps,and stand hunting....but they don't get to see how a buck behaves when he is followed for a mile or three either.....the thought that these animals can sometimes be approached to under 50 yards is foreign to them...


Nothing works here 100% of the time;but in the course of a season, you only need it to work once...

Id damn sure like to come up and see it done. I still hunt quite a bit down here (extremely effective on hogs) but the tracking thing is something I've never even attempted. If I were to come to any of Yalls neck of the woods I've got a good feeling that id be trying to hunt more your way...... when in Rome....

podunk for me anyway,sometimes the hardest part is finding the right track...in the right place, and the right time of the day...under conditions where you have an honest crack if you exert the effort.

Much of this hunting is random wandering,looking for a situation you can capitalize on...sometimes things fall together.

That's about what I was thinking. More or less a stroll in the woods until you find the right situation. Honestly I start out most still hunts strolling around, until I find an area that id like to 'ease' through.

It would be stumbling and bumbling through the woods for me....not used to dealing with leaves and stuff since we don't have trees....one less thing to worry about in my case.

Well said my friend!

Dober

Never a pair of pruning shears laying around when you really need them.....



One of the finest gentlemen I've ever guided from Pennsyvania with a nice buck we killed on the Musselshell River. Tom was an "old schooler". He reminded me of my dad....he loved hunting whitetails.

BH, your comment about folks who hunt with guides being desperate so and so's is about as lame as it gets...I'd love to be there if you ever called the man in the above picture that to his face.

Well said Pat.

NICE bucks!

This fine young man made an annual trip to Montana with his father every fall to chase whitetail bucks, hunt antelope and kill a few pheasnts. He's one of the best and "coolest" rifle shots I've ever seen. He learned how to hunt deer in Upper Peninsula of Nothern Michigan.....desperate?....hardly.

Pat...the only dude thats desperate around here is Blackheart...

But I suspect you knew that.....


Cool pics, as always!

Another "old schooler" from Pennsylvania. The first morning out he passed on a 160" whitetail.....he had his heart set on a good mule deer buck. This one was right at 30" wide.

Hold on now...I'm desperate too.

Hey Bob,

The first buck I killed, I was following my dad and looking at his back the entire time as usual.

We came to a very small drainage that we had to cross, but first we had to crawl over a large downed oak.

Just as I layed my shotgun down to cross the tree, a buck broke cover and ran from left to right in front of us, dad missed him twice.

I grabbed my gun and the buck circled up the hill about 30 yds away and was standing in some thick cane. Dad said, "you see him? You see Him?" I said no, then I did see him and put a load of buckshot and a slug into his neck, which was all I could see.

So the moral of the story is sometimes you don't know how one will react in any given circumstance.

I always figured that was a gift from The Good Lord to a little boy that hunted his tail off, but wasn't going to kill anything without divine intervention.

JM

Sorry....a sin of exclusion...

Another skilled and dedicated whitetail hunter from Pennsylvania, who was a very dear and close friend. Ray hunted with me every year up until his untimely death at 62. He was a man of few words....he let his boot leather, binoculars and rifle do his tailking......Desperate? What an insult.

Pretty country there. Lots to look at. Great buck too.

JM

Another man that I consider a great friend. Pete grew up in the Northeast and cut his teeth on whitetail deer in heavily hunted areas and thick brush. His ability to glass and find game with binoculars is as good as I've ever seen. He's also one of the quietest walkers I ve ever hunted with. Desperate?

JM: Sounds to me like you were "deserving".....

Divine Intervention accounts for most of my kills......

I may not be good, but someone,somewhere... is looking out for me

The only desperate person here is Blackheart himself. He's so desperate for people to believe he is as skilled as he claims he is. He is so desperate to be noticed he resorts to being vile, disgusting and ignorant because in his pathetic little world he feels that any attention is good enough. I cannot imagine the self esteem and insecurity issues he deals with every day

Great pics scenar, as usual. Thanks for sharing.

Amen Drum. All kidding aside, there's lots of folks here I'd love to hunt with. Sharing a blind or buckshot hunt with JM, hunting Montana with scenar, the plains country with Drum, woods, etc with BobinNH.......I freaking love it..... it's food for the soul.

With all the talk on this thread about how southerners should be hunting I thought I�d take spin out to a management area I hunt fairly often and take a few pics. This whole area was under at least 10 foot of water back in May(?) and it�s only been reopened a few weeks so this was a good excuse to go back out there and poke around. I took a bunch of pics but they�re all just more of the same. Earlier in the thread someone mentioned �just going around the thick stuff�. This first pic is a ROW that cuts E-W across the property, the second is from the levee going N-S. The whole 12 mile road looks the same so you can see there really is no going around it. Thick woods is what it is. That�s where the deer live, if you wanna shoot one ya gotta go in after them.


These next two pics are of different ATV trails going in. Off the sides of the trails you can see how thick these areas are. The trail is covered with banana spiders this time of year so I tried to get one in the pic but it�s out of focus.


This is a maintained trail into the woods and again you can see how thick it is once you get off the trail. As deer season gets closer you�ll start seeing lots of little trails being cut of these main ones where guys will go in a ways to set up their stands.

These areas that are a little more open like this flood when the water gets higher. If you were to have any chance of still hunting these are the areas are to do it when they�re not flooded. In the picture it looks like you could move through pretty easily and you can but they don�t continue for long stretches. They�re basically just pockets of open area. Plus a lot of hunters set up stands in these little open areas and I wouldn�t feel too comfortable intentionally walking through Billy Bob�s shooting area

This last pic believe it or not is where I shot my deer last year. Admittedly this is the thickest spot out here that I hunt. There�s a number of others out here I hunt that are similar to this but it�s too hot to hike out to them. This one�s just a 5 min walk from the truck. The tree I jacked up on is about directly in the center of the picture on the edge of the embankment. It looks crazy in the picture but late in the season and a little work with a machete you can actually see to about 40-60 out in the woods from there. This spot was cut over about 8 years ago and it�s too thick to hunt further in but when I�ve hiked around in there there�s deer trails everywhere and some good sized deer. So even though it can be a real headache to hunt there�s a lot of guys that hunt this same stretch of woods.
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Sorry for the long post but it�s a long thread and thought it might shed some light on the subject of why people hunt the way they do.

Looks like some of the management areas I hunt..... makes still hunting hard.

im not into the broke back mountain chit. sry

That's good to know. Save me the trouble of having to stick your face in the coals.

jesus christ! thats aggressive! hahaha 30 pages!! wahoo

Last year, after the past 10, we lost our lease, with it's permanent stands, box blinds, and cultivated food plots.

I am now hunting on SC -DNR public land...and loving it! I have been forced to LEARN how deer behave, look for lots more than a few prints and good trail, understand wind, etc, etc, etc. Until I can afford a decently light stand, I am hunting on the ground, and last year I only took one doe, but I SAW more deer and had SUCH A BETTER HUNTING EXPEREIENCE than I have NO INTENT to go back to food-plot land!

i just started carrying a camera into the field w/ my last season so i could take a few pics of the more interesting stuff. durring our hurricane today i found a few pics on my sd card from last season. thought ide share them w/ you guys. get an idea of the country side up here

from the bottom to the top. no hunters and usually a few good bucks hang around here




this ones worth tracking for sure


some of my fav. places to still hunt

Have never hunted Maine, but that looks real familiar...:)

So in the second picture down, you're sneaking up on deer going through that chest high brush?

I'm thinking about running Direct TV to a couple of my shooting shacks. I put in electric a few years back and like to watch football while I hunt but can't get ESPN without Direct TV and all that I can get are the network games off an antenna. I may end up running new electric wire so I'll have 240V and install bigger and more efficient electric heaters. Yeah, hunting without Direct TV in your shooting shack is "old school". I just need to get with the times!

yea mar336 i am. and so are most all the other hunters up in northern maine that track and still hunt. thats what alot of northern maine is. lots of old cuttings. you can pick your way through it pretty decent. it isnt as bad as it looks really where you would have to chop your way through w/ shears but yes. thats the stuff we hunt in up north. this was over off the golden road bob.

Mar336: Not Skybuster but will chime in...that looks like a mixed stand of winter beech and pine/hardwood second growth....

And yes, I have killed them in that,while tracking or still hunting,but it is done by many others here and can be considered as more or less "typical" deer cover here....that is some of the stuff you get all over northern New England.That's some of what you have to hunt here.

I'm not surprised by the density of it or that there's deer in there. If I were dropped off without any guidance that's where I would start hunting too. I'm just surprsied you're able to actively (even slowly) move through it without spooking most of the animals. It looks like you'd have to cut your way through it or make a lot of noise wading through it. Maybe it's easier to move through than it looks.

I'm not married to any techniques. Y'all have an open invitation to came down any time. I'd love to hunt with you and see how it's done. When I moved here I tried a variety of diffferent things because I'd never hunted out of a stand before and didn't like the idea of it. I certainly could've been doing it wrong but I just found it too difficult to move around with anything that remotely resembled stealth. Sitting still in a ground blind or a tree stand and letting the deer do the moving has worked substantially better.

a marlin 336 chambered in 45-70 would make one hell of a maine woods gun should you ever venture up here. the other thing is, if you have ever been in those winter beeches the slightest breeze makes those leaves rattle like hell. they cover a huge bunch of noise that even the stealthiest human makes. and w/ feeding deer they have those big ears tot he ground when they have their faces stuffed in the leaves eat mushrooms, beech nuts and what not they are making enough noise of their own that it seems like it covers up noise from a light footed hunter??

I hunt near Ashland Maine and Jackman Maine. Maine is a great place to hunt if you do your homework. For those that can't do their homework then hiring a guide is a better option. Maine has some great bucks that rival any of the better deer states in America. The problem is they don't have the numbers those other states have. Remember the winters in Maine are rough on deer. Spring, summer, and fall there is plenty of food for them. Come winter that turns to a whole different story.

Mar: It ain't easy...... and of course you have to work hard to be even a bit quiet.The ground litter will drive you nuts.

I am sure no expert, but little basic tricks help.Of course, wear wool of other very soft fabric.

Wear boots with some "feel",like Bean rubber bottoms or other soft sole footwear,so you can feel offending branches under the leaves..."feel" before dropping your weight on your foot for the next step...sometimes, "slide" your foot forward, under leaves.It takes effort and concentration.

Duck under stuff or roll at the hips to avoid brancehs....don't try to go fast like you are strolling to CVS.......plan a few steps ahead, so when you stop,you are next to, or behind a tree or something to break up outline.Keep your head looking "up" and move eyes constantly,not down at your feet,as you move(this is harder than it sounds

To me,important is to "relax" if you make a noise...don't worry and lose confidence.Remember the deer(especially a buck distracted and moving during the rut)makes noise too.They do not catch EVERY movement or hear everything.

We are used to low deer numbers, as MCH points out.Few deer sightings.....our seasons run a month;and we look for one good chance.

Hunting sloppy weather helps...it is surprising how close you can move in during a heavy snow....4-5 years ago, in the middle of a snow storm,a pal and I slowly poked into a bedding area,hit VERY fresh tracks(they won't be far!A fresh track in a heavy snow storm should put you on red alert),and followed very slowly....we had not gone 50 yards,and two does stood up maybe 15-20 feet away in heavy pine and stared us down before bolting.We could have killed them both...

We laughed, surprised ourselves we got that close.


You may do this stuff for two weeks, see nothing....then,have a 250 pound buck come by at 40 yards chasing a doe.....just as easily, you can draw a blank.Like I said ,it ain't easy.But it really is a lot of fun, even if less successful than stand hunting.

Looks familar.

JDK: Any deer up there this year...........?!

Nothng from Blackheart? He must have had to start school today...

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Yes there are.

With 1 more mild winter I think we'd be in decent shape.

hows the bird situation. everything ive read says the hatch wasnt too good.

I have spent a lot of time in the North Maine Woods this summer and saw very few. In my 3 mile walk around the house, I was flushing 3-5 broods per night. I haven't seen those in 2 weeks now either. Overall I think there are some birds around but they'll be in pockets I bet.

yep. my griffons will find 'em! probably wont get any further north then abbot to hunt birds this fall. the moose hunt is taking up my ol' mans vacation time...

JDK thanks for the info...sounding like things are improving.

BobinNH, do you know how the birds are doing around Pittsburge NH?

chirping of course!

I hope so. Supposed to run some dogs up there this fall with a friend.

Yeah, I'm desperate and looking for attention/ recognition. That's why I use my real name and post pic's of myself all over this site you stupid bastard. But hey, tell yerself whatever ya gotta to sleep soundly at night. There are lots of wannabe's here who think they know more than me and are constantly looking for personal recognition/admirastion and that list would include a couple from out West and one or two from NH and Maine. Pathetic [bleep] really.

I dont care much if I kill or not, a day in the woods away from work and that F'in cell phone in blessing enough, I do prefer to walk and hunt though.

Gunner

MCH: No, I have not heard any reports.Generally it is pretty good up there though....don't know for sure what conditions were this year.

Are you hunting near Ashland this year? That is north of Patten on Rte 11, right?

LOL!

Schools out for the day.....


Gee,I mean do you routinely attack people who have not even mentioned your name?

Blackheart how many bucks are you allowed in New York annually? I know you have said you shoot 4-5 deer per year like breaking sticks,so just curious how many are bucks....

Dang Bob,

I thought I was the only bonehead up this early. Neck is killing me, can't sleep.

JM: 5:30 here....the day has begun!

I've been up since 2:45 am. I guess it has!

Go buy a sling so my neck will feel better..

Desperate is being kind. Old Gabe would be much harder on you.

We have been fishing around the Allagash Waterway, points further west, and sometimes a little closer to home. Most of our trips we have been seeing far more deer than moose and have seen some tremendous bucks. There also has been a nice increase in the herd in NE Aroostook with a good number of does and fawns.

We aren't talking Iowa but overall better than the last few years.

JDK have you been up near Monticello,Harvey's Siding or Mountain #9 country at all?

I'm encouraged by what you say.....trying to decide where to go in November and thinking Maine or New Brunswick.

The basic answer is that you're allowed two bucks a year. You get one buck tag with your rifle/shotgun license and then another either sex tag that's legal to use either during bow season or muzzleloader season {but not during rifle}.

Thanks for that info.

I don't get down to southern Aroostook very often so I can't really help you.

I am doing a project in the Houlton area and have been seeing deer in the fields down there. There are from Route 1 so it isn't much help. I do know that the Harvey Siding area has been rather "intensively managed" by the landowners these last few years.

OK thanks again.At least it sounds encouraging....you're up there so know what's going on.

where??

Dont try to fool us, your posts have pretty much shown everybody here what kind of immature, insecure mental midget you really are. You try to "one-up" everybody here and try to convince us that you are the greatest hunter God ever put on this earth since the creation of Great White Sharks, Orcas, Saltwater Crocodiles, Siberian Tigers, Polar Bears, African Lions, Black Mambas, Tundra Wolves and Phillipene Eagles. You've been absolutely classless and rude in your comments here and if this thread is indication of the type of person you really are I would be shocked if you have anybody in this world that would consider you a friend.

Lets take a look at your best quotes on just this thread...





















































































Your words Blackheart. You really are not worth the 15 minutes it took me to pull this all together but it was funny to see all the crap you have posted on this thread in one spot. I do find it funny that you mentioned in two of the quotes that you would post pictures but that you didnt have a digital camera or a scanner then in the second to last post you claim to have pictures posted all over this website?

I have actually been on a hunt with Drummond, First, he hunts nearly all spot & stalk, not over food plots or out of "shooting houses". He Does Not hunt in high fence areas, & i have seen him stalk deer from 800 yards away. So he is not a guide / whore as you so ignorantly claimed. I've hunted with several guides in the past, and he is one of the best in the business!!! And lastly, you sure are tuff to be insulting him & other guys on this forum that you have never seen or met. To hide behind your keyboard & insult someone whom you have never met shows a total lack of class & cowardness! If you ever met him, you would find that he is one of the nicest & fun loving guides in the business. Not to mention one of the best! And if you met him in person, you definately would not be calling him names or insulting him. He is a pretty big guy & I'm sure if you made him mad, you would be awfull sorry! But again, he actually has class & manners & knows how to respect other people's views & opinions, Something you obviously know nothing about...

im still wondering where all the PICTURES are!

Wow, just..... WOW ! Really ? Try looking up the word sarcasm in the dictionary.

Huntsonora has been an insulting,condescending little prick through this whole thread and deserves whatever treatment he gets. Same goes for many others here. I'm sure they're all great big tough guys that would have me shaking in my boots if we were face to face, so thank goodness we're here on the internet where all these wonderfully sophisticated, mature, intelligent, super nice guys can't kick my a$$.

Here are a few pics of two of my deer and one of my buddies all taken spot and stalk with rifle and bow with Drummond. He is one of the best guides in the business and I have hunted all over the world with many, many outfits.

Pic 1 is me with my 202" gross 4X4
Pic 2 is my buddy with his 205"
Pic 3 is the rack of the one I took last year that suffered significant horn damage after taking a header into a deep draw after I arrowed him. Unfortunately I can't put him in the books but he scored a shade over 225" 6X5 with stickers and a shade over 32" wide. sorry for no kill pic, kills me too.

Those are hellacious deer GAP. Nice work, and Drum is one of the top dogs for sure. Congrats again on those great bucks.

Thanks, saw someone asking for some pics so I just thought I would throw a few in. We have seen a a bunch of great ones hunting with Drummond, unfortunately I will miss this season with him but will be back next year.

While I appreciate the kind words by the guys have I hanted with I am in no way trying to compare skills as a hunter with Blackheart. I'm simply trying to show him why everybody here thinks he's as a$$hole

BH:

Since you clearly think you are smarter, faster, better, cooler, than anyone else on this forum, why do you continue to waste your precious time and knowledge with us plebeians.

There must be a hunting/shooting forum somewhere in cyberspace that is sophisticated and sufficiently advanced, befitting a guru such as yourself.

Where do you start with your pruning shears here Blackheart?



Went creeping through one of my usual November haunts today just to see how it is doing. Didn't have much time, but I think it is going to be a good year with all the acorns already on the ground.

GAP/Drummond: those are some great bucks!

sharpshooter, that looks liks a sweet place to putt around on a rainy day

lmfao whats the matter? i just wanted to see some of your pics thats all

Just can't bs bs. Man, I'm Sorry you been through what you been through to make you like you.

And I'm sorry so many of todays "hunters" like to bullschitt themselves and each other as to what constitutes hunting. Raising deer like farm crops, killing them from elevated outhouses overlooking feeders or food plots and being proud of their great accomplishments. I occasionally shoot a squirrel off my backyard birdfeeder but it's not hunting and I don't pretend it is.

Blah, Blah, Blah..........

Blackheart, in case you haven't noticed, the guy asking for pictures is from Maine, and I can assure you that Maine deer hunting is not known for elevated shoot houses, food plots, feeders, or whatever other "deer farming" you may be referring to. You are also talking to guys who still hunt, track in snow, etc, in the same or even more rugged terrain than you do, and are successful at it, so who are you kidding in your great white hunter bullchit?

He's kidding himself thats about it.

I'm not trying to kid anybody. I realize some guys here really hunt and my argument was never with them. Some of them chose to get sarcastic and or make nasty, condescending comments so the conversation got sidetracked. I really didn't intend to infer that the guys from Maine or out West weren't really hunting or that they weren't good at it.

Bob Not sure how I missed this earlier. Yes a guy I duck hunt with Grouse hunts a lot according to him up there around Pittsburgh. I usually hunt up in Maine. But plan to try it out with him this year.

Yes I plan to hunt up there, Yes I take 212 to 11. A friend of my wife's has a camp near Jackman that I just started to hunt. So might spend more time around there this year.

So you just wanted to "infer" that the other guys were not "hunting"? You were the a$$hole that made the nasty and snide comments that "sidetracked" the thread. Go back and read the quotes of yours that I posted. You were doing nothing but looking for pissing contest. I did not think it was possible that anybody could be as ingorant as Flinch but you are making a case for being the dumbest SOB on this forum

MCH: The grouse hunting is usually pretty good up around Pittsburgh.....years past I have done good up there, although when I was gunning grouse a lot I hunted further south of there.But I have seen lots of them while deer hunting that country.You should do well, unles it's just a bad season for some reason.

I have also deer hunted the Oxbow country, south of Ashland.

Several of the lakes that we fish are west of Oxbow and we have seen a number of deer there this summer. I plan to hunt a few spots in that area this Fall.

I hunt T9R8, T9R7, T8R8 and T8R7. Pretty much the center of WMD-5.

In reading back through this whole thread, it looks like to me that you were the one who started all the name calling & insults. Again, showing a total lack of class of any kind...

JDK: La Pomkeag?

I am sure it has changed by now,but we used to hunt the Smith Brook and Sugar Berth Ridge country....also clear down and on top of Wadleigh.And both sides of the Aroostook...IIRC that is where I killed my last buck there, the north side of the Aroostook.

I know you used to be able to follow the woods roads clear back south to the CC Road and straight on into Patten....never see a soul except loggers and another hunter here and there.

I have had some great old times in that country....including sorta getting my arse turned around a time or two... It is wonderful country to hunt,even if you don't kill one.

There are some real toads up there.....BIG country and lots of it.

A friend had a camp in the Bow...other friends stayed at the Umkolkus Dead Water Camps...

Oh have I been turned around a time or two up there! One time I insisted I was on a logging road that would run right into the road my truck was on. Only to findout I was actually on the road my truck was parked on. LMAO

How hard is it for a non resident to hunt Maine? Is there a draw or are the tags over the counter? Is there a lot of public ground?

I just got word that someone hunting at Libby Camps shot a pretty sweet black bear, went 490lb.

over the counter and damn near unlimited land to hunt. Some you have to pay a toll road fee for but well worth it.

Moose now that is lottery

Doesn't that make you feel great about your woodscraft?...... Down here you can get... um... 'turned around' 50 yards from the truck.... especially with me 'navigating'.

Oh I have been turned around a time or two down in FL and AL.

I think it's funny as hell how "liberal" all the normally "conservative" hunters are here. You guys should start you own organization here the LHO {Liberal hunters org.} I can hear your membership sales pitch now. "Hell yes we shoot them critters in a pen boy, but it's a big pen and by god it's real huntin".

Without a compass in hosed, my natural sense of direction is a bit lacking....

He earned the title fair and square.

There certainly seems to be a unanimous consensus (minus 1, of course )

Drum there are lots of places state wide where you will hunt dawn to dusk for a week and never see another person in the woods,except maybe on the road...

Generally in the big woods north of Bangor,or west to Jackman and between, if they see your truck parked, they will hunt somewhere else....

Big woods!

Must be nice, what's the non res license fee up there Bob?

Do you think Blackheart is dumber than Flinch? With all due respect to Flinch, he is REALLY dumb. I'm going with Flinch for the dumbest guy on 24HR and Blackheart for the most ignorant and the biggest ass on 24HR. Any thoughts? Anybody want to second the motion? Lets here some more opinions...

Actually it was your whiny little girly ass, bleudreua and Rost495 who were the first ones to get uppity and insulting. Which I've found to be normal behavior among you classless Texans whenever someone questions the legitimacy of your extermely "liberal" hunting practices.

podunk: $114 for non residents this year....over the counter.

That's not bad at all as far as non res fees go.

Thats cheap! I definately want to do this one year!

Huntsonora im with you on that, id like to see some of the Big woods when its all white....

Well shidt....I see no reason we can't put this together for next November.....I would do third week,before Thanksgiving....

Who's in?



Drummond we will have to get podunk warm clothes...his Florida arse will be hypothermic in no time...

And a set of pruning shears

Seriously, I would LOVE to do this but will have to look at my schedule for next season before I commit. Do you have any preference points for CO? I know I could do an early high country muzzleloader hunt next year. Let me know and we can plan CO first and Maine second...

Drummond

Drummond I have no preference points....have not been to Colorado in quite awhile but almost went landowner for mule deer last year....

Get your schedule set,keep me posted, and we will try to manage this.I'm sure we can work it out...

No hurry here and no real deadlines...

No worries..... when it snows I look like the Michelin man..... wearing a weeks close all at once.... this is definitely something id do. Call it an affordable out of state hunt, same goes to you for some saltwater fishing or swine shooting whilst youre near lake istokpoga.

You get a deer and bear tag but you need a $15 bear permit for the bear season (Bait & Hound). If you just hunt bear during the general deer season you do not need the bear permit.

podunk we will stay in touch on this....if you guys want to come, I will coordinate from here....may go up this year and check it out in November;see where it would be good to stay...

This will be pretty much "Old School"....you can bet on it!

Podunkkennels if you come up Dec/Jan there is very good bobcat hunting too. There will be plenty of snow and will be cold to say it nicely. I can pretty much promise you that global warming won't be in your vocabulary.

BobinNH old school with that big high fence around half the state of Maine! LMAO

Im gonna give Black Bear a go this October, a bigger Northern cat with a winter pelt would be interesting. They don't ever gut much of a pelt down here.

Where you hunting bear?

All I could pull off this year is extreme North Ga, I told my little bro id take him somewhere new to hunt if he was doing better in school.... nothing fancy but it'll be three or four days in the mountains hunting and fishing with my number one pard.

Sounds great.

Im not sure how productive it'll be but I know it'll be a blast kinda get my feet wet in out of state hunting. Never hunted anywhere but Florida, and a couple little farms in Ga....

Attaboy! You're solidifying your position!

productive doesn't always translate to good or bad hunts. To me any day hunting is productive with or without a kill.

I couldn't agree with you more, especially with loved ones.... im by no means a trophy hunter anyway, hell I've never even shot a racked buck. Nothing bigger than a cowhorn spike.... lords dinks though

Lotsa not lords.....

I much enjoy eating dinks to eating big rack bucks. Our archery season we get 2 bucks, two antlerless tags. I donate the bucks to hunters feeding the hungry and eat the does.

If only to complete my education, I'd like to try all methods of deer hunting and think I could have fun doing them all.

That said, as a native Mainer who grew up hunting in the "big woods" of Aroostook County, there is few things that get my blood flowing more than a fresh OMG track in 6 inches of snow. There is nothing like being in the woods for days, being able to wander until you heart is content, and not seeing a single human foot print. Following that track as he winds through blowdowns, swamps, over ridges, and through head high regen. I love that first sight of a brown patch, black nose or white throat patch and he doesn't know you are there. Put the bead behind his shoulder and you know you have beaten him on his terms.

Not saying this is better than any other style of hunting or any location but I have to admit it is pretty darned satisfying when you win.

MCH: That would be a BIG food plot!


JDK, well said...

It may not be a slam dunk, but it is a lot of fun and very satisfying to kill them that way....you recall the failures as easily as the successes.

I think one single township would be a BIG food plot!

exactly

If this idiot actually has a hunting license & gun, that is REALLY SCARY... Sure, we have some real redneck hillbilly's even in Texas, but this guy is just frickin' nuts! He would definatly be the "Liberal Poster Boy" for gun control. I just want to know what color the sky is on HIS Little Planet???

heres a northen maine buck that my dad and i double teamed on thanksgiving day. for those that dont know double teaming is it's when two guys track the same buck together, the front guy is just the tracker, the beagle so to speak the not looking for the deer so much so the two of you can cruise a good pace to get caught up to the deer and the second guy is the eyes looking for the deer itself. usually the second guy gets the best shooting from when we can see. this time dad was the man 221 lb 12pt. Btw this was only the second time we have ever double team tracked and it was a blast. we learned the idea from the benoit videos although they make it look much easier

for you gun nuts the rifle dads holding is and old rem 700 carbine w/ a 19" barrel a lyman barrel band front sight, timnet trigger, its also had the butt stock cut down 1" and has been glass bedded, chambered in '06

Great buck!

That's a great buck skybuster, real bruiser for sure. Good on ya for helping out the old man too. Those Benoit videos sure are something aren't they? I watched mine last night, and it was a real lesson on culture for my buddy's girlfriend who majored in social work.

I would love to get my feet on the ground up in the Maine woods. Never ventured anywhere other than the coastline for the most part. I think my trip up to Cabelas a couple weeks ago was the furthest North I have been in Maine. I have been up to Pittsburg a few times bird hunting in NH, but also have never deer hunted up that way. I think I am going to talk my uncle into bringing me up to the deer camp on Stinson Mountain this year in Rumney (I think we had a PM conversation about that place Bob) in trade for some work I did for him. Around where I am I usually hunting tracts that are 3,000-6,000 acres or so, but some real big woods sure would be fun.

I am also going to keep an eye out for a Remington 760 or 7600 in .270 or .300 Savage at the upcoming gunshow in Concord. I am working it Saturday, so I can do the pre-opening aisle crews before the masses arrive. It just ain't right that I hunt the way I do and haven't tried a pump rifle yet.

thank you sharpshooter. i dunno about helpin the ol man out part, i would have loved to get some shooting in too lol. he's pretty quick w/ that little bolt and can ratchet that baby as fast and as accurate as any one ive seen w/ a lever pump or an auto and still hit somethin.

those benoit boys are pretty cool. we help a friend of ours w/ a booth at the shows up here in maine and we ours was next to theirs one year in wilton. for three days igot to listen to stories and pick their brains. got some cool stuff and some good info from them fellas.

im about an hour from cabelas, that place is a once a week venture usually lol. my dad has been in twice this week alone last minute things for the moose hunt ya know.

i love my pumps, all of them, but the one that i really love is my 35 whelen carbine. its always worn a peep w/ a fiberoptic front sight but a couple weeks ago i removed both, did a trigger spring swap and put on a luepy 2-7 on her. the work that i do i should wear saftey glasses more and i dont, ive noticed at longer ranges i cant pick out smaller horns and details through the thick brush like i could not too many years back. the crystal clear sight picture really helps me, especially on running game

skybuster, very nice! Congrats to you and your Dad....those are big grins and well deserved.Great buck and a fun way to get him, too.!

NH Sharpshooter: Stinson Mountain is a fun part of NH to hunt...I would hunt it "high"...it is big country, too,considering it is really not that far north.

thanks bob

sharp, here are a couple before and after pics of my whelen

I don't think I've ever even seen a buck that heavy..... saw a 190 lb six point once up in our panhandle. Great buck skybuster, im liking the Whelen too.

skybuster: Tell us a bit of the story...how did you pick up the track and how far did you and your father follow him before you killed him?

Did you walk in on him,I mean did you catch him standing? What were the shooting conditions, ie distance,etc.

Like to hear some more on this.

Geezus, get some vagisil and shut the hell up !

That is one mean machine of a rifle you have there man. I think I need one now. Time to hock the stumpjumper machine gun (7400 carbine) to get an Amish machine gun. You pop many critters with that rig?

Nice buck Skybuster. Got him the old fashioned way and got to do it with Dad.

You'll never forget that one.

The South & Northeast mirrored each other in firearm types used for many years.

Lever's, pumps, some auto's and shotguns is what I saw in most camps here in the 70's as a kid.

If you find any of the above being used now, it's usually someone my age or older.

Kinda sad, but it is a result of the dramatic changes that took place in the way people hunt here vs. 30-40 yrs ago.

No one runs dogs anymore, drives are forbidden on most private leases, so shotguns, fast repeaters or auto loaders aren't really necessary anymore.

Back in the 70's, a guy that carried a bolt gun was called a Dude or Fancy pants. Now they are all you see in the woods.

The old stuff is still fun to hunt with, but are pretty scarce nowadays.

JM

not really sharp, i bought it a few years back when remington did the special run of the 35 rem and the whelen, shot two deer w/ it w/ factory 250's when it was rifle length. then i put a 3-9 on it and had a few chances but was carrying a pump carbine in 3006 for a couple of years in a row that i killed my deer w/ then i had the whelen cut off to 18.5 and had it tapped and the williams front and rea sights put on by a smith. shot two more deer w/ it that way and missed a few and a coyote lol shooting 225 tbbc. then last year i used it and shot the hell out of some moose maples w/ horn 250rn. ended up killing my deer w/ a 350 rem instead. this year i put that scope on it and i just got some 225gr nos. partitions to try this weekend if i get some loaded up. im backin up my dad on his moose hunt w/ it. he is using a t/c penn match rifle w/ round ball and patch hahaha should be a hell of a time and make a good video.

i have so many favorite rifles that i like to keep them in rotation if you know what i mean. i will say when its time to really get serious around thanksgiving week its either the 06 or my whelen......both pump carbines

well, we knew he was in this area of about 1 square mile cuz dad had tracked him on that previous monday but then the snow melted and we poked around looking for his core area for the next two days. i had found some good sign in another spot and we still hunted it for the next two days and let this one hopefully forget about the fool chasing him around on monday. it snowed thanksgiving morning and dad and i had to go get sand from a pit and sand the driveway so the other hunters could get out of camp. (thats why the bows are in the back of my truck. trying to keep him somewhat clean on the ride back to camp) we didnt get started untill about 7:30 which was no biggie. we went back to where dad had cut his track on monday and found it about a mile away. clearly the same buck his hoove on his left foot was very distinguishable (sp). we parked loaded up and i took off atr a good pace. slower then a jog but fast paced just the same. he fallowed a brook for a long time , 400 yds maybe? it made it hard to hear but it was snowing like hell anyways and that also made it tough to hear, or see far. around 12:30 or so we were at a pinch point on the brook on our left that was rising and a steep bank on our right that bordered a cut off. at the top of the bank was a stand of 10-16 foot tall x mas trees. i had slowed down also to a medium paced walk cuz he was just wondering. i expected him to cross the brook then bed back on our left to watch his back track the way the wind was blowing from right to left but he didnt, he bedded up on our right. we actually got by him about 15 yds before he stood up and lowerd his head in an effort to sneak past us undetected and my dad just kinda said 'there' BANG....BANG. the second bang caught him square in the neck. pretty sure the first shot went under his chin by the looks of the up rooted dirt on the side hill. he was only 60 yds bedded when he stood up. all dad said was 'wow that was fast, did you see him?' hahah i see him but it was all over but the shooting by then. the rest was history. the drag wasnt too bad either 400, maybe 500 yds arcoss that old cut off then a dead end secondary loggin road. maybe 3/4 of a mile back to the truck after that down the log road. pretty easy one in that respect. all that snow melted the next day. i ended up w/ a 5 pt on the last day. i almost didnt shoot him but im weak man that late in the season and then shot him in the face

i should note that he was killed w/ one of those crappy old core lokt bullets hahaha

my dinky 5pt from the last day. broke my stinkin rear window too lol

Great stuff skybuster. Even better since you did it with dad. Congrats to you both.

Great buck! What an awesome hunt and memory that you will cherish forever!

I've seen at least a half dozen 740's in the last week or two being sighted in at the range but they're definitely on the decline. Literally every shop in town here has 3 or 4 of them on the shelf they can't get rid of. If I see a pump 35 Rem show up though it's coming home with me.

We Texans know how to get it done. Bait and benchrests.

Whoa, what's this 'we' schitt kimo sabe. Effective, yes. Exciting, uuuh. Challenging, uuuhhh....

I never stated an emotion,simply how results are garnered.

NICE Deer!!!

NICE Buck! Anywhere in the USA, he would be a Big Shooter!

skybuster: Great story!Nice job and your 5 point is just great,too.Nice job!

Must have hit a nerve... Again, No class & definately not a intelligent reply. What dimwitted response will you use next... I bet when you were a little boy, you called the bullies names in class & then ran home to momma to keep from getting your ass kicked.

buster,

That's a great buck! I love it when a plan comes together like that especially when you're tracking one down. One of the most satisfying experiences you can have in hunting IMO.

chl: he's makin' friends left and right. At this rate he'll leave ol' Swampy in the dust.

What kinda rig have you got on his leg to hang him by? Never seen nothing like that. miles

Thinking that perhaps this was where that buck made his mistake. There are a couple lessons in that sentence.



Obviously many different ways to arrive at the ending of having a picture of a successful Deer hunt, and methods can vary with ones location. However, for us from the East, that is a great example of Whitetail hunting at its best.

Unfortunately with tree stands-many that resemble mini-camps with sliding windows, propane for heating and cooking and even a few with a bed-having found fertile soil even here in the birth place of the Whitetail, fewer will experience such an accomplishment.

Keep the tradition alive.

nothin special. just a heavy duty spreader made from some flat iron stock.

This is the last buck I killed via tracking (3 years ago). Shot him in his bed at about 60 feet. Certainly not in the class of skybuster's father's deer but I was happy with him. I killed 3 bucks in consecutive years within 100 yards of that knoll and somewhere in the neighborhood of 7-8 deer in the same general area. Unfortunately it is now a clearcut.

Saw this buck as I eased over the top of a hill. He was walking dead away and started easing left behind a bunch of Hackberry trees, so I couldn't get a shot.

I back tracked and eased out on a finger ridge that was above him and parallel to what I thought would be his line of travel.

Had some luck as he actually passed below me about 75 yds in a bottom.

Knowing the lay of the land you are still hunting is a big advantage.

JDK/JM: Those are both nice bucks....I'd have shot either one...

Damnfine bucks fellas. JM, I agree with you about knowing the land also.

i friggin love dead deer pictures. nice job guys!

No tracking involved, but I was walking up the middle of this stream which took away his hearing:

thats a nice one. those pics must be on a couple different hunts?

One during Deer season and one close by while scouting or Grouse hunting. Can't remember which.

Beautiful woods and deer there.

Battue; Nice buck....he's a beauty!

Thanks all.

In days gone by when the winters were colder, you could slide them out on the frozen ice. Made things easier for sure.

Alright Skybuster, here's one of mine from last season.

cool! got anymore? there should be there should be 3.7 more from last season alone right?

heres my fisrt one.(1989 showin grand ma') not real big but i was pretty pumped.

Great picture skybuster

Actually I do have a couple more. Forgot I still had some pics on my cell phone from last season. The others are just a forkhorn and a doe though so not really worth bothering with.

Why did you crop your face out?

thank you. i just learned how to scan this past week lol now i can bore everyone w/ pics

My wife cropped most of it out when she took the picture. I told her I wanted a good closeup of the deer and she took it serious.

Interesting

Here is Blackhearts image code from Photobucket for the cropped deer.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/ajm32386/deer3.jpg


Here is an image code for another picture on another site.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/ajm32386/Guns/DSCF1409.jpg

Here is the link to the site (user name LS1), some dude that is 25 and from NY, according to his info.

http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=154476

Who would have thunk him a loser.......

All it takes is enough rope...

That is a friend of my sons. He was here today and I asked him to post the picture for me because I've never done it and didn't know how to get the pic from my phone to photobucket.

25 year old pimply faced steroid eater has been at it for 38 years..

Ok, mister New York state slayer of game. Laffin

A new Liar24 is born..

You'd be able to tell it's not the same person in the pic with the deer if you weren't such an unobservant moron.

But in the other thread you mentioned some sort of school.

25 that kid ain't more then 19.

I think he is the same age as my son and he is 24.

Is it Jim Bridger's son.............

Not taking sides. But the picture of the deer has a goatee, but it has some white hair in it.

Blackheart the great white hunter you claim to have so many kills and of quality animals why are you affriad to show your face?

Look you punkass little [bleep]. I told you the [bleep]' story and I'm not telling you again. I've seen your pic and you're an ugly, pathetic little excuse for a man. Furthermore you obviously add years to the ages and inches to the racks of the deer you shoot and anyone with an ounce of sense can plainly see that. I told you I didn't post the pic myself and I don't owe you or any of the other bottom feeding scum here any further explanation.

The Great White Hunter has spoken. Blah blah blah

That's a real intelligent post for you little girly man. Now drag your ugly ass back under that rock you slithered out from under. Blah blah blah. What a moron.

Moron? You need a 24 year old friend of your sons to post pictures? I see the apple didn't fall far from the tree as it never does. Glad your son has someone with a clue to help him along in life.

He can't post a picture, his wife can't scan one and his friend is some dipshitt looking, SKS/AR15 nerd.

Course there ain't nothing we didn't already know, just nice that a faceless picture helped to pull the mask off a bit more.

this is james from s&s loggin on ax men

though the deer you posted is a deer i'de shoot its def. not an old mature trophy. its clearly a 2 1/2 maybe 3 1/2 spindly racked specimen. no offense. Extreme close ups only make fish appear bigger, dont you know that! hahaha

I have a confession to make.

I am really a 300 lb. 19 yr. old Lesbian college student doing research on interpersonal conversation dynamics.

you'll fit right in...

Lmao!

Never said he was an old trophy buck. Just an average buck aged at 3.5 yrs. with a 16 3/4" spread and 18.5 " main beams. You ever shoot anything bigger than a yearling 6 or do you leave all the big ones for daddy to shoot ?

Well hey pard at least my wife ain't a fat ugly dog like yours. HAAAHAAAHAA. What a [bleep]' joke you are Mr. ladies man.

Lets see some pix.. With no cropping.

The Great White Hunter just has so much class. You really are a small boy that has never or will never grow up. I really feel sorry for you. To have to attack a guys wife is just low. I am not one to believe in censoring or throw people off a open forum but that right there deserves it.

Open your eyes you stipid, clueless, classless blind idiot. He insulted me, my wife and my sons friend in his last post. The goofy lookin' bastard has no room whatsoever to be poking fun at someone else for looking "nerdy". If you're going to act like low class, stupid, white trash you can expect to be treated as such.

If your going to call somebody stupid you should check just to make sure you spelled it correctly

Get help man. You're around the bend.

4

Good catch on the typo.

BAAAAA, BAAAA. I could swear I hear sheep ?

which one of these guys is you Blackhole

Hearing things. That's a sign too.

4

Candy ass.

hahahhaah well maybe ide kill all the monsters if you led me by the hand??? ill carry the rifle you cary the pruning shears. besides, you never know when your dads hunt is gonna be his last might as well make the most of it! i havhnt shot a ton of large ones but im content.

MORE PICS!!! I GO YOU GO I GO YOU GO, it'll be fun... ill start
my face included

That's the difference, your wife ain't got an ass like a 14 year old boy, your wife IS a 14 year old boy.

First I was a DICKHEAD. Now a Candy ass. Do me a favor and start thinking above my belt. Sheesh. You probably are a zit faced teenager.

4

Yer face ain't all that great and that's still a dink.

i know that and i know that too, wheres your pics? thats how the game works. see, ill explain again, i go you go i go you go.....ages 3 and up so i figured you might catch on hahhaha

anytime you wanna come to maine and show me hows its done im ready to learn. we can have one deer a year, i may not kill a huge one every year but i do tag out and it put delicous staeks and sausage in our freezer. new hampshire too!

Man that really is lame you ugly candy ass pussy. And yeah, I'd say that to your face any day, every day ya ugly little poosy.

[bleep] yer game ya little pansy.

You are always doing the pansy, little girl etc thang. Got a crisp $20 bill says you chugged more than a few of your son's friends crank.

It will catch up with you.

Bring it bitch !

To wit

I tag out every year in NY too boy. And we get to shoot a couple more than you so you'll never catch up.

I've seen your pic. I schitt bigger n you. You CAN'T scare me.

Yer still just a poosy and that's it and that's all.

Childish name calling. Is that all you can do? You can't get along with anyone on this forum. No one likes you. Why not just go away...

lmfao hahah man you are a tool. where are all the pics of all these deer mr whitetail? so far in 51 pages you have posted one pic that probably isnt even you to begin w/ and its nothin spectacular at that. your saying as hardcore awesoe hunter as you are you dont take any photos of anything. i find that hard to believe.

LETS SEE SOME PICS!!!!!!!!!!!

I've got a few whitetail racks laying around here.....and a few pics to go with them. Can I play? My face is even in some of them.

Weeelll.....You essentially are full of chit. So no surprises there.

My god, the fact that I can't get along with any of the pathetic beotches here is the biggest compliment you could pay me. Thank you, from the bottom of my cold, cold heart. Bitch.

I don't know how old 'buster is, but judging by his pic he has quite a bit of life left in him. You, OTOH, are likely to code out in your chair yelling at the computer while you type. He'll catch up, and pass...

George

Not one [bleep]' chance in hell. Never was, never will be. Try again Mr. wannabe.

Not one chance in hell of what, you coding out at the computer or him passing you?

Schit, a couple years of travelling to Ohio and he could put numbers on the board. That'll just make you angrier and increase the odds of a stroke. Win/Win.

George

Sure thing Scenar. Your pics are always welcome. Got any with pruning shears in em?

Wannas take me on old man ? You'll lose. Bad.

The young man said he was up to the challenge and is willing to back it up with evidence. Soooo....Let's see what you got.


You nailed it. I'm a bastard.

What caliber is that?

The young man is a fraud as are you. I only live one state away. I'd be willing to meet with you face to face on the NY/Pa border whenever is most convenient for you. We'll discuss particulars when we get there little big man.

Go play with your dolls like a good little girl, little poosy wannabe.

If I recall Logcutter also wanted to meet people face to face to settle things.

I got 1K on Battue whipping your sorry azz and I know he has a bunch of years on you. Not that I would let him because I would be all over you like stink on chitt. Think I am PLAYING? Try me.

please do!! everyone loves deer pics. even if they are small like mine. heres one i shot about 15 years ago. i was 14 at the time, last day of a dry season. IF I HAD MY PRUNING SHEARS I WOULD HAVE QUARTERED HER AND LUGGED HER OUT IN MY POCKETS! i was happy and it tasted damn good ice fishin

This is good. The man wants to fight because he can't take a damn picture. Only on the internet. miles

The internet is full of blowhard badazzes.....

George

winnie that one is an '06. i have a twin to it in .35 whelen