I can't recall ever being unhappy that an elk went almost no where after some portion of the running gear was taken out.

I hit a 6x6 at not far from 500 yards one time, quartering on,with a 180 NPT from the 300 Win Mag. He collapsed like he'd been dynamited.



The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.