And a miss behind the shoulder aim is gut and a rodeo, a miss forward from high shoulder is a missed elk or neck shot.

Just because I suggest a high shoulder shot doesn't mean they can shoot there.

This thread is about giving advice to someone you don't know or how they shoot. High shoulder is the biggest lethal area of the vitals.

Problem is people advise what they think they can do.

Since I changed from advising armpit up shots, I haven't had to knife someone's struggling elk in the dark.

Kent