H&R single shot with 3.5 12 ga. 2 oz. once was enough. As said, nearly broke my finger in the trigger guard not to mention collar bone. Close second is same frame with a 45-70 barrel, 405 at 1600. .35 Whelen in a different H&R kicks like mad.
Once I loaded 120 gr. FF and a 505 minie in a Zouave "just to see". Don't.
As for things that shouldn't, a Savage 99 in .300 with that steel butt plate kicks way over it's weight.
Look up the stories of 4 bore and specially 2 bore guns.
Had the opportunity to shoot a .416 double, nore of a push, and a beuatiful .460 LH Weatherby, I fell instantly in love.
