Originally Posted by 4th_point
Originally Posted by SansSouci

Now, Boxer, do you think that any animal can live longer than seconds sans its heart and/or lungs?


Souci,

I haven't killed a lot of animals, but know from firsthand experience that perforated lungs do not equal death in seconds. It can take minutes and in that time I have no doubt that deer and elk can travel a mile, maybe two in that time. This is what some fellas here on the 'Fire call a "rodeo".

Here's a buck I shot with a 200gr Nosler Accubond from a 300 Win Mag. Distance was 50 yards. Both lungs were pulverized. This buck ran like he wasn't hit.

Guess which way he ran?

Downhill, of course. Check the last pic... this was the hillside I was hunting. Not exactly a Kansas cornfield. Cell-phone pics suck, but I think you get the picture.

Lucky for me he ran into a pile of blow-down, and crashed. Otherwise he might have made it to the bottom of the canyon.

So my answer to your question to Boxer is, "Hell yes a critter can live for more than 'seconds'".

Where the hell do you get this idea that animals die within seconds?

Jason

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I mean no disrespect and am not bagging on you in any way, but the deer in that pic is shot significantly too far back even if it was a quartering away shot. I know none of us, certainly not me, gets perfect shot placement every time, but if you are intentionally aiming that far back, bring it forward a bit and life will get easier. Ideally, I'd like to hit about 4 inches in front of the brown leaf and a little down on a broadside shot, maybe hit the leaf if quartering.

The bulk of the lungs lies between the shoulders. A "low" shoulder shot that misses the bones is a solid lung shot. As you move rear of the "elbow", the lungs start angling up. Imagine a line going from the elbow through the leaf to the bullet hole. That is approximately the rear of the lungs. Depending on the shot angle, you probably got some liver and clipped the rear lobe of the onside lung and pulverized the offside one.

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