Originally Posted by Hondo64d
Rick,

How accurate do I need to be? If I am easily putting rounds in vital sized targets out to 600 yards, is that not good enough? On a ten inch vital zone, I will give up an inch or two of precision to cut my engagement time by a second or two.

Don't get me wrong. I enjoy dialing too, and do so often, albeit only out to 825 yards or so, which is about as far as I can stretch it on my place.

I just like the simplicity of the Rapid Z. I bought one out of curiosity and continue to be amazed by how simple and easy, yet effective it is. So much so that I bought another.

Believe me, if at any time I feel the setup has failed me and I miss a shot on a deer I feel confident I would have made if dialing the LRHS, I will post it right here for everyone to see.

I just gotta ask you though�

Have you tried a Rapid Z?

If so did you take the time to find out what magnification best matched your load's trajectory?

If so, were you not able to make hits on vital sized targets out to the limits of the reticle?

Thanks,

John

Edited to add that a match that is supposed to replicate hunting scenarios does sound like a blast and I would love to give one a try. Is there a list of upcoming events by state?



I would try to be as accurate as possible. And it's possible to be more accurate.

It's great that you are hitting the plates to the ranges you say, but like formy says, animals don't stand out there at convenient 100 yard increments. I understand that if you get a good range you can bracket him and it will work.

Now add in some wind and you're holding over and out somewhere in outer space (what we call it. formy calls it holding in "air") and the guessing really starts to yield poor results.

You'll be much better off dialing with the Zeiss (if it actually works, but that's another story) at the ranges you're talking about. Also, setting the scope on "9" to make the reticle work would really put me at a handicap for shooting 500 and 600 yard targets, even game. It definitely reduces precision. I prefer a lot more power at long range.

Using the reticle like Jordan and I have said, does require the scope to be set on a specific magnafication. You can screw it up. I've done it and you see that Jordan has seen it happen in a critical situation. Then there's the question if you actually have the power in the right place on the ring. A little more or a little less will affect the reticle spacing.

I have not used the Rapid Z. I have in fact used a similar system that Leupold has, the Varmint Hunter Reticle (VHR). I had two scopes set up with them. I thought this would be a good choice for a ballistic reticle for hunting when I first began getting into long range. Long story short, gaining actual experience at long range in pressure situations teaches you what works best, and it's not that type of ballistic reticle.

I spent quite a lot of time checking the subtensions on the equipment pictured in one of my posts. I wanted to make sure that they were exactly what Leupold said they were on 20X. They were.

Leupold always nails the reticle.

How they explain the subtensions is quite a lot easier to understand. It's set up in MOA drop for a generic load for a varmint rifle.

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So I took my already developed accurate load that I knew the MOA drops for from Ballistic AE and simply matched the drop with the reticle MOA drops from line to line. Made a map and put it on the scope bell so I couldn't F it up.

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I also hung the dope off of the scope to be precise when I can dial...

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Since then I've gained experience and have had both scope's reticles changed out to the TMR. On max power a mil is a mil and everything is perfect. Leupold always nails the reticle.

As for the fun matches I'm talking about, you'll want to come to Whittington Center for the every-month Sporting Rifle Match. I think some guys in Douglas, WY have started an identical match as well.

Sniper's Hide Cup, Steel Safari are more serious competition, but I would recommend attending.

Belive me, no one is holding over with a Ballistic Reticle. If they are, they're not doing well.




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