Originally Posted by Dave_in_WV


I did. The M-9 is too large for many people. I qualified expert with the M-9 (not hard standards) but my stubby fingers didn't grip them like they should! I was more proficient with the M-15.


Same. For the rank and file, think it's the ergos of the present M9 that are a barrier to maximizing it's effective use, at least as much as any chambering debate. I've average or maybe smaller hands, and drawing and gripping the M9 was a fiddlyplucky affair to then shoot well, certainly not a design I felt good about whipping out under duress.


Golldammed motion detector lights. A guy can’t even piss off his porch in peace any more.

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