Originally Posted by swarf
In many ways I agree with Savage 99. Robert Ruark was correct.

Those idiots who think that a 223 is perfect for deer and black bear are repugnant. To brag about how small a cartridge that you can kill something with is disgusting. To take any life and not give it a good death is disgusting. I think that these disgusting dolts should be sentenced to perhaps a miserable, slow, death by cancer. Give them what they deserve.

These thoughts are not provincialism. They are human decency. Our game deserves more than that from us. I always thought that whitetail rounds began with something like a 250 Savage, and went up in power from there.

I have taken but one critter in my life bigger than a whitetail, and that was an Alaskan bull moose. I used a 7mm Rem Mag with a 160 partition. As I looked in awe at it on the ground, my first thought was, "the guys are right... the Alaskan minimum for moose should be 30 caliber and up."

I promised myself, at that time, that if I ever took another Alaskan moose I would have a 338. "I" wasn't in a survival situation. "I" should be a better, more decent, person for having the privilege of taking that large Alaskan moose.

Sitting up in a tree and taking headshots "only" at 25 feet, over a corn pile, at night, is not hunting. There is a difference.




Newsflash Chief, I've killed Moose with the .30-30, .30-06, and .450 Marlin and it doesn't matter what cartridge you use. They soak up lead and either stand there looking stupid or run off and collapse. And when they're down you still have to wait about two minutes for them to die.