Well, let's see. My attack on slob hunters and a lack of judgment has turned into an attack on even God.

Well, more people have been killed in the name of God than any other single thing, and it seems they still are doing just that. I am 67 years old, and have known many professed Christians whose Christianity has only been an asset to them, and they still have been a detriment to society...as long as they followed the pro-forma "they" where alright.

Knowledge does not grow on trees, and many people are incapable of good judgment through a long life.

I never implied that that a 6mm with appropriate bullets was not an adequate deer rifle. There are appropriate bullets, and there are appropriate effective ranges limits for every cartridge combination.

I live in a developed area and state. There is little public land. When I ask a land owner if I may hunt groundhogs on his property with my 221 Fireball, or 22-250 with lightly constructed bullets many now say, "no way!" This is because the last idiot that he permitted on his property had his AR and assaulted a charging, fast firing, 200 yard distant groundhog by bracketing it with a barrage of at least 6-8 rounds. Many times these are the "cheapest" from Walmart, or wherever. The landowner then says, "all of those bullets go somewhere...." Next year up go "No Hunting" signs.

I have done most of my deer hunting in PA. Shots can be close, or over a power line. The record black bear is in excess of 600 pounds. I think that last year three were taken that were over 500 pounds.

I have taken my last few deer in PA with a patched round ball, and a traditional flintlock muzzle loader. The last year I hunted I didn't take a deer. Everything that I could get close to was so small that it wasn't worth getting my hands dirty.

By the way, I do have a niece custom 358 Win, and I do hope to take a deer with it and my own home cast bullet, and I'd call that a 100 yard or less project.

I try to be an ethical person, I try to exercise good judgment, I try not to be a hypocrite. When I hunt I am usually an outsider. I travel a distance, spend money, and attempt to give my self, my game, and all around me, a quality experience with their exposure too me. I want to be welcomed back, able to come back, and at least be a pleasant memory, if I never get back.

I want to appreciate my game, my companions, and my environment. I feel that I'm lucky to have all of them.

If this "my" attitude pees in someone's campfire because my attitude offends you - too bad. It should in some cases.