So much parsing out ballistics and creating scenarios that level the playing field. The problem is that the playing field is not level. If you can't build a 270 Wby rhat can break 3500 with 130s, something is wrong. I chrono every handload and factory load that goes in every firearm I shoot, including 270 Wins in a couple barrel lengths. Even my old 24" 270 mag Vanguard breaks 3400 with 130s. My 270 win Vanguard never got anywhere near that, with it's 24" barrel.

The thing is, the results I get from my Wby are pretty average for standard factory rifles. If you don't want to shell out ridiculous money for a "custom" rifle and don't want to handload, you can get the same velocities. Take it out of the box, scope it and go to work. Could be it's just too simple for some people.

All the cherry picking and skewing stats doesn't change the facts. Build a 26" 270 Win that can run with the Wby and we can have a discussion.