Jeff;
Thanks again for the kind words, I do appreciate them and will endeavor to deserve them in future posts.

In the other thread I believe it was jaguartx who mentioned buckshot to try on a pine tree - and honestly Jeff we've shot about every inanimate object one should and sometimes should not shoot with all sorts of long arms.

When it comes to bears, I'll take something which gives me the best chance of 2' minimum of penetration.

I very vividly recall talking to a BC provincial biologist who'd quit carrying a shotgun for a Model 70 in '06 loaded with 200gr Partitions. While he wouldn't go into details on what had gone on in his personal rodeo with no pay window, he was very anti buckshot when it came to stopping black bears who'd decided to get the ball rolling so to speak.

Our own Klikitarik posted a photo of a Brenneke slug out of a nuisance grizzly he'd had to shoot and if I recall correctly, he was underwhelmed with it.

Honestly if I could find some of the Latvian made Duplex slugs which are solid steel, I'd use them in a heartbeat, but so far they're not coming across the medicine line, so we make do with what we can find.

I'd not argue with anyone who preferred a rifle with a decent bullet either, but I've a lifetime of pump shotgun use - bought my first one 42 years ago - so the muscle memory is strong with me and pump guns and without going into too many details, I know I can run either a pump gun or a bolt rifle with reasonable proficiency in dicey situations.

The sound of the angry sow is spot on, though the one I spoke of also clacked her teeth together - which was incredibly loud even at 30-50 yards. It surely gets one's undivided attention anyway Jeff! wink

Thanks again and all the best to you folks as you migrate north.

Dwayne


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